Can we the people take back America from the corporations??

America is FUCKED if something big doesn't happen. If i were Warren Buffet, i would invest my 99% into the future of this country somehow.


I believe in this country, and i think if we can change it, we could really affect the whole world in a positive way.

One of the most successful investors in the world and notable philanthropist, Warren Buffet has pledged to donate 99% of his fortune (third richest person on earth) to philanthropic causes.

Philanthropy is the effort or inclination to increase the well-being of humankind.

Hypothetically, if i were Warren Buffet himself asking for guidance on what to do with my fortune in order to change this country, what would you tell me?

Personally I do not think a single man could do jack shit if he doesn't attack the root of the problem. I think his money should be used to get some honest non corruptible people with a track record into high political positions by using the same tactics the evil fucking corporations use on the public. Fund a massive ad campaign and fucking blindside these fucks by hijacking an election. Then get absolutely militant about taking power from the corporations and give it back to the people. Revamp education on a massive scale etc. I think its the only way things will ever change without a revolution and lots of death.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

Being an American, I can't believe how Fat, Dumb and Happy we've become.
Every day things go on to remove our remaining freedoms and devalue the money we've all saved. I'm totally amazed that someone in power or with extreme wealth hasn't gone on a crusade to change things. It's hard to find anything that's not made in a foreign country. Every time we buy or use those products, we sell out part of America. In a lot of cases, there isn't any choice as there isn't a like item made here any more.

We are headed for 2 classes here, the ones that have and those without. We're headed to an eventual Hyper Inflation that will seal our fate. We need change alright but not what the majority voted for in the last presidential election.

We may not be able to take America back here aren't enough people willing to stick their neck out do it. We the people need to "Get A Grip". Who do you trust when everyone is only worried about themselves?

SpecOps13 said:

Being an American, I can't believe how Fat, Dumb and Happy we've become.
Every day things go on to remove our remaining freedoms and devalue the money we've all saved. I'm totally amazed that someone in power or with extreme wealth hasn't gone on a crusade to change things. It's hard to find anything that's not made in a foreign country. Every time we buy or use those products, we sell out part of America. In a lot of cases, there isn't any choice as there isn't a like item made here any more.

We are headed for 2 classes here, the ones that have and those without. We're headed to an eventual Hyper Inflation that will seal our fate. We need change alright but not what the majority voted for in the last presidential election.

We may not be able to take America back here aren't enough people willing to stick their neck out do it. We the people need to "Get A Grip". Who do you trust when everyone is only worried about themselves?

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THATS IT IN A NUT SHELL! to many people turning the blind eye, or out for the quick buck. theres not alot of people with integrity and / or work ethic any more.

A little rant / story.

While at the end of designing the maxgasser , I brought it to a local upholstery factory to get a quote for cutting and sewing just the covers. He gave me the quote, (way to much for a guy doing this out of my garage)and told me he had contacts in china that could make the FINISHED SEAT for less then I make them myself, but Id have to buy 100 units. this means that if I could come up with enough cash, I wouldnt have to do a thing but count the profits. I WONT DO IT, yes it was tempting, and yes I could have sold my product cheaper but thats what it would have been ,CHEAPER, made by someone that couldnt care less about the product or the end user.So In my little(piss hole in the snow ) kinda way,Im taking back what never should have been sold,the next gens piece of the american pie.

sorry for the Rant, I could go on and on, lets just say I agree with you!

SpecOps13 said:

Being an American, I can't believe how Fat, Dumb and Happy we've become.
Every day things go on to remove our remaining freedoms and devalue the money we've all saved. I'm totally amazed that someone in power or with extreme wealth hasn't gone on a crusade to change things. It's hard to find anything that's not made in a foreign country. Every time we buy or use those products, we sell out part of America. In a lot of cases, there isn't any choice as there isn't a like item made here any more.

We are headed for 2 classes here, the ones that have and those without. We're headed to an eventual Hyper Inflation that will seal our fate. We need change alright but not what the majority voted for in the last presidential election.

We may not be able to take America back here aren't enough people willing to stick their neck out do it. We the people need to "Get A Grip". Who do you trust when everyone is only worried about themselves?

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Donkey puppet and elephant puppet have the same hand shoved up both their asses. Puppets, thats all they are. I actually led myself to believe Obama was for the people and voted for him. I came to the realization it dosnt matter who you vote for, democrat or republican, the game is still rigged. Our masters play the same game every election. Its all a show.

Until we get wall street and the corporate greed out of the government, nothing will ever change.

I think its safe to say there is NO HOPE that we can sway the masses of brainwashed sheep into waking up and seeing this country for what it really is. That game is rigged too. They are controlled by the same people running the show by exploiting them via the media, their religion, patriotism, Hate radio, and the values passed down from generation to generation.

These are mostly good hearted, well meaning people who want nothing but the best for this country, to be happy, and have their chance at the "American Dream". Were all human, they play us psychologically with indoctrination. We are conditioned. This dosnt mean "Americans are stupid!!" We are brainwashed.

The Tea party just makes me sick. It started off on the right foot but was quickly taken over, by our masters.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/tea-party-founder-slams-tea-party/

We need a peoples party, with a leader who will someday have a holiday in his name.

We need someone with a good heart, and a PROVEN track record to lead a movement against these fucks, backed by a MASSIVE amount of money so we can beat them, at their own game, using their same tactics. Start advertising like a motherfucking son of a bitch.

Once they get in, mass investigations, information releases, and start EDUCATING the people in this country. Make government TRULY transparent, set a certain term for every politician from the bottom up and get rid of these fucks who have been in for the major majority of their lifes. And most importantly, kick out wall street and the corporations by making lobbying illegal with actual jail sentences for offenders. You want to be a politician, you give up your right to make any more money per year than what the people decide your ass is worth period.

Its fucking sad that in order to get this country back, the people who understand what is truly happening will have to brainwash the TRUTH into the masses.

I feel its going to take something like this to happen or a massive civil war/revolution with a crazy amount of death and destruction.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

I hear that there are a few states that would be good places to be when the shit hits the fan. And, It's Gonna. There are still some places in America that aren't Brain Dead.:biglaugh: There are a few Americans who will gather when the time comes.


twistedmax: I'm proud to call you Brother for holding the American Way above an easy profit.

I bought a Craftsman Tool, Made in China. There wasn't any choice as I can't just track down a Snap-On or Mac Tool Dealer. I made sure that I made a scene at the checkout. I loudly asked if that POS was warrantied the same as Real Craftsman Tools. The answer was yes, so I added "I'm sure that the cost was 1/10th of what an American Made Tool would be to Sears, They could afford to replace it 9 more times before I cut into their profit". If I have any choice I buy American or from one of our allies, atleast..

Only man that makes any sense at the present time is Ron Paul . Only problem is his affiliation as a Republican . If he was the face and voice behind the Tea Party ( and therefore make it a legitimate third party ) I could really get behind him .

SpecOps13 said:

Being an American, I can't believe how Fat, Dumb and Happy we've become.
Every day things go on to remove our remaining freedoms and devalue the money we've all saved. I'm totally amazed that someone in power or with extreme wealth hasn't gone on a crusade to change things. It's hard to find anything that's not made in a foreign country. Every time we buy or use those products, we sell out part of America. In a lot of cases, there isn't any choice as there isn't a like item made here any more.

We are headed for 2 classes here, the ones that have and those without. We're headed to an eventual Hyper Inflation that will seal our fate. We need change alright but not what the majority voted for in the last presidential election.

We may not be able to take America back here aren't enough people willing to stick their neck out do it. We the people need to "Get A Grip". Who do you trust when everyone is only worried about themselves?

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They already have Dave....a long time ago. They just did it for themselves through tax dodges, shelters and other legal footwork.

You didn't think they would include us peons in their crusade did you? No dice brother....we carry the weight of the country on our backs....that's our legacy.....Always was....always will be! unk:

I have a different take on what the current biggest problem in our Country is. I believe that the Federal Government is the root of all our problems. We have the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world. Why would ANY company set up their business here when they can outsource jobs to other countries with lower corporate tax rates & instantly increase their bottom lines ? If our corporate rate was slashed, businesses from all over the world would begin moving their businesses HERE, and guess what that means ? Jobs. We don't build anything here any more - we need to reverse that.
Here's another issue I have with the federal gov't. Do a Google search of " Community Reinvestment Act ". It MANDATES that FannyMae & FreddieMac give mortgages to people that CAN'T AFFORD THEM ! Of course our mortgage industry was going to go bankrupt. That's what happens when there are no requirements to get a mortgage. Not everybody in this country WANTS to work for a living, or pay their bills, or save up for a down payment to own something they can be proud of.
But yet, even with these ridiculous rules & regulations (and many others), the Federal Government keeps telling us it's the evil banks & evil corporations that are leading us straight to hell. Sorry - I'm not buying it. I, too, am sick of the two-party system. I wish a third-party could rise up & give us all another option.
Just my 2 cents. I respect all previous posts, just sharing my viewpoint.

Nice thoughts guys.

But too late, we will now totally crash and burn before any real change will occur,,,and then it will get very ugly.

Washington has turned into a dictatorship and the States and fat and happy and ignorant people sat by and watched. We are now an empire that will steal resources rather than buy or trade for them. Launch wars based on lies, and along with the Corporations move the jobs overseas to get slave labor and decimate the workers in this country. Our elected leaders did this, and we are guilty for allowing it to happen. Remember Ross Perot???

You had better look at another entity that has huge influence over this country that has caused much of our woes.

Every politician on the State to Federal level are bought and paid for by campaign contributers that call the shots on everything the Pols do.

This country will sadly be reaping what it has sowed,,,every last one of us.

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: 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world

I just read somewhere that Google pays 2.5% tax..

http://www.globalpost.com/webblog/united-kingdom/how-google-manages-irish-corporate-tax-rate-25

apparently noone heard of ron paul!

he told the truth so hard they wouldnt show him on tv anymore.

Speaking of Ron Paul. About a couple yrs ago, a highway patrol letter/ memo was slipped out stating to watch out for people who had a Bahr or or Paul bumper sticker or sign in their yard. The concern these people may be terrorists. Included in this was vets, if you didn't like abortion, had guns, believed in God, the list went on. Geesh, they had me pegged. Here, I've had more FBI checks in the last tens than ever before, yet I suddenly became a person to watch. What BS! I shot off a letter to my state rep in which he wrote a letter to the MHP. He sent me a copy of it. Turned out three weeks later, the WH's pig, Janet N, stated this same trash publicly. The HP was watching us via the socialist governor, via the porkett, via Oblama, and prob via Soros.
With all that blow money gone last year for the same as nothing, and with our open border policy, it's best to be a good, prepared Boy Scout. Uncle Sugar sure don't give much of a chit about us.

On Fox the other day... Donald Trump ALL but said he'd run in 2012. Of course I'd have to hear his take on things, but what he was saying on Fox REALLY sounded good to ME.

Talked about making the US more competitive and taxing Chinese and Korean products more as well as asking why our war ship dropped everything and went to S. Korea to help when S Korea wouldn't sign the trade agreement we wanted them to, to help equalize trade between our two countries.

I kind of agree with him...

Chris

To many good post in here to quote. The big picture is simple.



Bring the work home. We need to make the shit ourselves.

Ive been thinking of a campain to start. I hate seeing stupid "tagging" grafitti around town. So what Im thinking of doing is painting over it with American flags and slowgons like "bring the work home" or "buy American not forgin" and this would happen all over town where ever you grafitti or tagging. Some would be big walls on the sides of freeways or just the little road signs they tag. Some would be done over night and some in brod daylight.

FREERIDER

Buy it here or live in fear!

An interesting note about "made in the USA" stuff. There's more of it than you may think around. Surprisingly, it's found in dollar stores and "generic" brands. Try it sometime. Go to walmart, and grab a "name brand" item. Then go to the other end of the aisle and grab the el cheapo, off-brand. $1 says the name brand is foreign and the cheapo is made here. I remember a couple years ago one of the radio "shock jocks" (think it was Wolf on PYX106 for anyone local) did a campaign to buy absolutely nothing made in China for like a month, to prove it was possible to live on only American goods.

To me that proves the corporate excuse of "American labor is too expensive" is a load of BS.

yep every time me and my gf shop at walmart i make her pull one thing thats made in china out of the cart before we check out. and any time i see something made in usa i snatch it up.

I like the heading! I must say my wife and I are small business owners and we both know and have clients that are multi millionares! Some have had businesses that are huge in America. My one client has become a good friend of mine. I personally like the guy a ton. He is a self made man and the money he has and the little I have . Have no bareing of how we look at each other. We have good talks about government rules and regulations, IRS , EPA etc. This guy I have listened to every word over the last 6 years or so. What he says and predicts is almost always true , absolutley incredible! The last conversation we had was about government control, and how they were driving our the small business man and even large corporations out of business or to other countries. He says the government is so out of control with spending and policys that is why things are happening the way they are. We are losing jobs and a livelyhood because of it. Out sourceing to other countries etc. He said I had two choices with his company. Sell it to a buyer from another country! Or keep in operation for as long as he could. Only knowing that if he raised his prices he would not be able to compete and lose clients. Therefor ultimately going under because of it. So guess what he was really close to retirement anyways he had to sell or have his lifes work (empire) go into the toilet. Over 1200 people lost their jobs because of the sale. You can thank your government for the loss of many jobs in this country. He told me "Americans will never take back this country, it will be the large corporations that save us!" After he said that it really opened my eyes and I could really see from a large and wealthy businessmans point of view!
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88vmx12 said:

I like the heading! I must say my wife and I are small business owners and we both know and have clients that are multi millionares! Some have had businesses that are huge in America. My one client has become a good friend of mine. I personally like the guy a ton. He is a self made man and the money he has and the little I have . Have no bareing of how we look at each other. We have good talks about government rules and regulations, IRS , EPA etc. This guy I have listened to every word over the last 6 years or so. What he says and predicts is almost always true , absolutley incredible! The last conversation we had was about government control, and how they were driving our the small business man and even large corporations out of business or to other countries. He says the government is so out of control with spending and policys that is why things are happening the way they are. We are losing jobs and a livelyhood because of it. Out sourceing to other countries etc. He said I had two choices with his company. Sell it to a buyer from another country! Or keep in operation for as long as he could. Only knowing that if he raised his prices he would not be able to compete and lose clients. Therefor ultimately going under because of it. So guess what he was really close to retirement anyways he had to sell or have his lifes work (empire) go into the toilet. Over 1200 people lost their jobs because of the sale. You can thank your government for the loss of many jobs in this country. He told me "Americans will never take back this country, it will be the large corporations that save us!" After he said that it really opened my eyes and I could really see from a large and wealthy businessmans point of view!
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He is absolutely right!! Large corporations have the talent and know-how to make it work...."We the people"....we're just support staff! We don't know how to run a country.

Get the friggin' politicians out of the mix, allow the system to function without all the ridiculous bailouts and stuff and we will be fine!

All the bailouts were such an incredible waste of money. All the asswipes pulling in 8 or 9 figure salaries, screwing millions of people over, and they finally get whats coming to them. Instead of being allowed to go into obscurity and die, to make room for a new, reformed system, the government pumps billions back into these corrupt, dysfunctional businesses. Then, with all this cash that just fell out of the sky, they go on exotic vacations and give themselves enormous bonuses. Only America celebrates failure. What's that? Your multi-billion dollar business went broke from greedy management and illegal business practices? Here, have a few billion to "restructure".

I was a little more proud to drive my Ford after they refused bailout money and got their shit together themselves.

If HD wasn't kept afloat by the government, they would have been out of business 30 some years ago. I'm sure it would have been bought and re-started, but then maybe the message they need to improve would be a little more clear, and HD probably would have been better for it. Instead, they've been told it's OK to keep pumping the same shit out year after year and the gov't will pick up the slack.