Air ride - pros and cons

[satariel666]

Anyone with air ride experience? Need some info about reliability and ride quality.

I will be buying a new rear monoshock shortly and these are 2 options I shall consider:

- aftermarket oil shock: Wilbers is my choice.

Pros: 3 stage adjustment capability of damping and rebound plus hydraulic preload(which I also have now), spare parts and 100% rebuildable.

Cons: must choose the particular aplication ex. honda vfr 800. Most likely
need to spend some more coin on aditional springs and rebound/damping kit.
Hard to set it right on a custom motorcycle at a glance.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/D330-Wilbers...pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item53e8a357dc

-air ride suspension:

Pros: fully adjustable spring rate and rebound(just pump it more). Universality: one shock for many motorcycles:you dont give a damn its hayabusa or intruder - its the same **** with different mounting hardware. Coll like hell eye catching riding height lifitng LOL
Once you have a compressor onboard(which will fit nicely under faux tank cover)
you can also pump the front forks and even the pneumatic stand(so called "landing gear").You can pump your flat tyre LOL. Air shifter also possible.

Cons: Battery consumption. Pumping takes time - if you want you can install the small air tank. Its heavy. You dont have a 666 stages from 6 adjusting srcrews to set you shock hydraulics like they do on MOTO GP :rofl_200: (not exactly a bad thing for some).

http://www.airfxairride.com/catalogs/2013 SPORTBIKE CATALOG.pdf

 

[srk468]

I don't have air ride but I like the idea, couldn't you build the tank into the swingarm? That's what I did for my air shifter and it works sweet.

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[satariel666]

I saw your work. Kewl mate.

Added a voting pool. Which one would you choose?

 

[srk468]

Personally I'd go with air for your application because it'll make your work way easier. You won't have the adjustability as far as bump & rebound but as you said most people that get into the infinitely adjustable shocks just end up always tuning and never really get it right anyway.

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[satariel666]

Im more on the air ride right now. Im sure I can machine them myself. Will buy the rear shock
for sure to get some inspiration. Its nothing else then double piston cylinder - machining, seals or CAD designs are not my concern

 

[wildweasel_pt]

Thats funny. When you posted about the million dollar wilbers shock i found myself browsing online for air shocks, the dual type that goes underneath with adjustable height with a pump (the ones you can remove sidestand and let the bike sit on frame type of thing). I just found it funny you posted this thread. Im also working on something that for now it will go with a honda pro-link type of suspension but i got curious nonetheless.

 

[satariel666]

Mine setup:
-vfr mono swingarm
-cbr 929 shock with prolink.

Strangely familiar...again. But Im used to have a deja vu with you Fred.

 

[wildweasel_pt]

Don't understand where you are trying to go with that as i don't have a clue about what you are trying to build as you seldom come here now and don't even post about it. So i either have telepatic abilities to read your mind or this is just a coincidence as i think it is. At proper time i'll post about this and you can see that im not after someone ideas or such like i think you tried to imply here... have a good day and good work with that. Wish to see it complete as many here do.

Heres something that may interest you for your project.

 

[satariel666]

Pls resize the pics...its completly unreadable...

 

[satariel666]

Getting back to the meritum...nobody with air ride experience here? Really?

 

[wildweasel_pt]

Pls resize the pics...its completly unreadable...

Don't know how to as those are direct linked... Gary or Garrett do you know how?

 

[satariel666]

For those whom are seeking the ground explenation, great help shall be provided LOL:

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Tech-Tuesday-negative-spring-air-shocks-2012.html