Another perspective on minimum wage

[MtnMax/Magniac]

Hamburgers...

Personally, I would like this to be shown on the black board (if there are still such things) in every high school classroom in the United States.

Low military pay was not mentioned in the State Of The Union speech, but of course
increasing the minimum wage was ... Minimum Wage for those fast-food employees striking
for $15 an hour.

Let's do some math:
At $15 an hour Johnny Fry-Boy would make $31,200 annually.
An E1 (Private) in the military makes $18,378.
An E5 (Sergeant) with 8 years of service only makes $35,067 annually.
So you're telling me, McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective asses on the line every day protecting you.
Here's the deal, Baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your life-long profession, you have failed. If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills!!!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

Better yet, thank a Veteran.

 

[Tex85]

+1

 

[Miles Long]

In Canada, Immigrants (at least the first generation), and migrant workers- both legal and illegal - form a large part of the "underground economy", and gladly accept low-paying, monotonous and often dangerous jobs that privileged self-entitled young people refuse to take. Hiring these folks is often the only way some businesses can survive in our heavily taxed, socialist leaning, liberal country. Canada is also heading towards a universal $12- $15 minimum wage.
Is there a similar situation in the U.S.?

 

[SpecOps13]

The Military has always been Majorly Underpaid. My base pay when I went in was $288.00.
When I left all of my benefits as a Staff Sergeant were under $1,000.00 (7 Years).

Little Whiny kids at Burger Joints are being replaced by Robots...:rofl_200::rofl_200::rofl_200:

Now, I'm retired and Illegal Aliens make much more than I do and I retired as an Assistant Staff Engineer for Smiths Aerospace.:confused2:

TRUTH, JUSTISE AND THE AMERICAN WAY.....:ummm:

 

[Traumahawk]

hamburgers...

personally, i would like this to be shown on the black board (if there are still such things) in every high school classroom in the united states.

low military pay was not mentioned in the state of the union speech, but of course
increasing the minimum wage was ... Minimum wage for those fast-food employees striking
for $15 an hour.

let's do some math:
at $15 an hour johnny fry-boy would make $31,200 annually.
an e1 (private) in the military makes $18,378.
an e5 (sergeant) with 8 years of service only makes $35,067 annually.
so you're telling me, mcburgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective asses on the line every day protecting you.
here's the deal, baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your life-long profession, you have failed. If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills!!!

if you can read this, thank a teacher.

Better yet, thank a veteran.

+1

 

[sdt354]

Another piece of this, and I know from listening to the whining majority. Kids don't want to start at the bottom. They want top pay for no skills and questionable ambition. Back in my early working career, you did apprenticeships to learn a trade. You worked hard and kept your mouth shut hoping the guy you worked under would teach you well. You knew there was a prize financially down the line. I had to acquire a lot of tools at my own expense, probably 30% of my income the first few years. Plus I went to tech school and training seminars luckily on the company dime. Different economy, but I went to work as a Sears mechanic for $3.00 an hr. mostly brakes and front end work. From there it was on to trucks and diesel, then yachts. I didn't make great money for a long time, but I didn't have to pay anyone else to fix my cars or bikes. And I always had work on the side. So, no I don't identify with this whining bitching and unmotivated work ethic I see from the many young people in society.Immigrants, I'm sorry to say,seem to be the majority of the old fashioned, nose to the grindstone, work ethic. My grand parents were immigrants and passed on what I mentioned to their kids and grand children. I thank them everyday. Thank God my daughter gets it.
Steve-o

 

[V-Four]

Hamburgers...

Personally, I would like this to be shown on the black board (if there are still such things) in every high school classroom in the United States.

Low military pay was not mentioned in the State Of The Union speech, but of course
increasing the minimum wage was ... Minimum Wage for those fast-food employees striking
for $15 an hour.

Let's do some math:
At $15 an hour Johnny Fry-Boy would make $31,200 annually.
An E1 (Private) in the military makes $18,378.
An E5 (Sergeant) with 8 years of service only makes $35,067 annually.
So you're telling me, McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective asses on the line every day protecting you.
Here's the deal, Baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your life-long profession, you have failed. If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills!!!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

Better yet, thank a Veteran.

Where's the gosh darn like button?



ah, here it is.
:thumbs up:

 

[brad bruggeman]

I agree with most of this but it is not a fair comparison to the military. The people defending our freedoms do deserve more but they also get benifets that most don't.Such as medical insurance, paid retirement available after 20 years of service.It would be nice to retire at age 38.That is all WELL deserved and EARNED.Just not a fair comparison,that's all.
This will just cause factory workers to quit their jobs to go to Walmart and McDonalds.Then the fast food and retail workers will be without a job.Not to mention that a BigMac will cost you $12 and fries will be $7.It will take $60 to take your family to McDonalds.Yah,that will be good for the economy?.

 

[sdt354]

I agree with most of this but it is not a fair comparison to the military. The people defending our freedoms do deserve more but they also get benifets that most don't.Such as medical insurance, paid retirement available after 20 years of service.It would be nice to retire at age 38.That is all WELL deserved and EARNED.Just not a fair comparison,that's all.
This will just cause factory workers to quit their jobs to go to Walmart and McDonalds.Then the fast food and retail workers will be without a job.Not to mention that a BigMac will cost you $12 and fries will be $7.It will take $60 to take your family to McDonalds.Yah,that will be good for the economy?.

Don't forget the military people put their life on the line for our country. Can we pay them enough? Hardly the case from what I see working at the poison food distributors.
And, the military wasn't a choice for all. We had the draft until 1972-1972 snatching us off the street, sent to a foreign jungle. Unappreciated there or here. What's that worth again?

 

[blaxmax]

In Canada, Immigrants (at least the first generation), and migrant workers- both legal and illegal - form a large part of the "underground economy", and gladly accept low-paying, monotonous and often dangerous jobs that privileged self-entitled young people refuse to take. Hiring these folks is often the only way some businesses can survive in our heavily taxed, socialist leaning, liberal country. Canada is also heading towards a universal $12- $15 minimum wage.
Is there a similar situation in the U.S.?

Gardeners.