does this driver do this on-purpose?

[Fire-medic]

Car vs. motorcycle, an old story.

I am sure there are many more of these, but this one makes me cringe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIVgv7l8Lw&feature=related

If I was anywhere near this, I would have chased-down this driver and followed them until the law caught-up to him/her. One cellphone pic of the license plate & another of the driver in the driver's seat, along w/911 call...

 

[one2dmax]

No road rage there in my opinion. Looks like he was riding next to the car (and not sure if he should have been) and that car moved over to the right to go around the car that had stopped in front of them. He just flat didn't see he had a motorcyclist next to him.

Sean

 

[Fire-medic]

Yeah, that's what I thought after looking at it a few times, but regardless of the bike's position, the car should have yielded. Another case of someone not-aware what's going on around them. People don't pay attention, and it's the rider's fault for not being more-observant of the hazards ahead/behind. The bike may have been not-occupying the center of the lane, giving the car the idea to pass him, the car is clearly moving more-quickly than the bike, so that makes me blame the car for overtaking the bike w/o sufficient clearance to pass safely. Guess we will never know.

 

[RaWarrior]

The car driver obviously didn't look, but that biker was riding straight in the car's blind spot. Never ever ever hang out near the rear quarter panels of a car. Too far back to be seen if they look out the window, but too close to be in the mirror's field of view. Yeah, some cars now have the fancy radar blind spot alert stuff, but that's far from the norm. I've actually noticed on new Chryslers as I pass them on the left I see a yellow dot light up on the mirror as I get near the rear bumper and turn off as I pass the driver window.

Honestly the biker should have seen that coming also...car in front stops for a left turn...what's the car in front of you going to do? Swerve right to avoid stopping.

All about looking ahead down the road, predicting what people will do.

 

[sdt354]

The car driver obviously didn't look, but that biker was riding straight in the car's blind spot. Never ever ever hang out near the rear quarter panels of a car. Too far back to be seen if they look out the window, but too close to be in the mirror's field of view. Yeah, some cars now have the fancy radar blind spot alert stuff, but that's far from the norm. I've actually noticed on new Chryslers as I pass them on the left I see a yellow dot light up on the mirror as I get near the rear bumper and turn off as I pass the driver window.

Honestly the biker should have seen that coming also...car in front stops for a left turn...what's the car in front of you going to do? Swerve right to avoid stopping.

All about looking ahead down the road, predicting what people will do.

From what I'm seeing, the bike was not in a good safe position. Block the lane and make THEM go to your right. Don't let a cager over take you, if you can avoid it. I don't. I looked a few times and stopped it along the way. The car swerved into the bike, never saw him. Car at fault. The bike going the other way didn't apppear to stop and help. I hope he eventually did.
Steve

 

[ninjaneer]

I don't know what wrong with me, but I missed the obvious incident y'all are talking about and thought you were talking about what was going on around the 25th second.

anyways, imo, it's the biker's fault. (s)he shouldn't have been in a cager's bind spot. MSF 101.

 

[one2dmax]

All the bikers fault. There is only one lane each direction. Either he was trying to pass or riding wayyyy too far over in the lane.

Sean

 

[ninjaneer]

All the bikers fault. There is only one lane each direction. Either he was trying to pass or riding wayyyy too far over in the lane.

Sean

+1 sean, i was just about to say the same thing after taking another look. the road isn't a two-laner and the biker was lane-splitting the main throughway and the curbside parking spots

 

[slobmanrf]

It appears to me the bike was passing the car on the right.At the same time the car was moving to the right to avoid the left turning vehicle. Car never seen him. Bike for sure at fault,He put him self in a BAD position. If his bike sounded like a vmax with a kerker & comp 2.5" baffle,That car might have just locked up the brakes out of fear!

 

[ninjaneer]

If his bike sounded like a vmax with a kerker & comp 2.5" baffle,That car might have just locked up the brakes out of fear!

:rofl_200::rofl_200::rofl_200::rofl_200: unk:unk:unk:unk:unk:

 

[bazwell]

The bike was going faster than the car. Bad overtaking.
That's some real novice riding!

 

[Rusty McNeil]

It appears to me the bike was passing the car on the right.At the same time the car was moving to the right to avoid the left turning vehicle. Car never seen him. Bike for sure at fault,He put him self in a BAD position.

Agree with the above.

Bike was passing on the right in my opinion, or at minimum not protecting his lane and "allowed" the car to attempt to pass. Both dumb and dumber moves.
But I can't see the car attempting a pass there, and it looks like the car was not going faster until the bike realized he was going to crash and slowed down.

I think it was the bikers fault 100%

It aslo reinforces my riding philosphy

Cars either don't see you, or do see you and are deliberately trying to kill you...Ride accordingly.

 

[rusty]

Agree with the above.

Bike was passing on the right in my opinion, or at minimum not protecting his lane and "allowed" the car to attempt to pass. Both dumb and dumber moves.
But I can't see the car attempting a pass there, and it looks like the car was not going faster until the bike realized he was going to crash and slowed down.

I think it was the bikers fault 100%

It aslo reinforces my riding philosphy

Cars either don't see you, or do see you and are deliberately trying to kill you...Ride accordingly.

I agree,sqeezing your bike through moving traffic & parked cars can get u in trouble.Some people have no situational awairness,there clueless:ummm:

 

[Buster Hymen]

All the bikers fault. There is only one lane each direction. Either he was trying to pass or riding wayyyy too far over in the lane.

Sean

I disagree. The fact that there is a truck parked on the street and traffic can still pass the truck without going into oncoming traffic, shows it is an unmarked 2 lane road. They are fairly common in Ontario. I'm surprised that so many here think that a car can sideswipe another vehicle, forcing it into a parked car, leave the scene of the accident and consider the biker 100 percent at fault!!:ummm:

 

[one2dmax]

It's very clearly a 2 lane road to me with 2 lanes of parking. There flat isn't room for 4 cars (2 each way) to drive. Now, if your local laws and procedures there are setup so that only the middle stripe is marked then they may want to consider getting into the modern age of transportation.

It looks to me like the surface is actually fairly new and could be why there isn't any marking if your 2 lanes each way idea is correct. Again I stress there simply isn't room for it.

NOW, I FULLY AGREE that the car should not have left the scene but again the camera angle may not tell the whole story. The guy may have come back or pulled over out of camera range. It may be that he never did contact the rider (I don't see where he did) and didn't even see him (which is obvious).

They both should be far more aware of their surroundings for sure but I think the car driver would not be ticketed in this instance based on only what we see in the video.

 

[dannymax]

Just what I was thinking too....a good set of Mark's pipes probly would have prevented that.

Passing, or running on the right like that on a narrow street is begging for trouble....he found it!

Yeah, Steve-o, I was wondering about the guy going in the opposite direction also, certainly was getting in some serious rubber-necking....hope he didn't whack into a parked car!!

Course, he and the other guy could've split the ambulance cost......just saying!! :biglaugh:

 

[Rusty McNeil]

If it was two lanes in each direction then why are so many cars parked in the lanes nearest the curb?

:ummm::ummm:

 

[dannymax]

I don't think it is 2 lanes in either direction. The car pulled to his right maybe 2 tire widths, that's all. Watch his right front tire in relation to the wet line on the road.

Nobody is right in this situation, the biker was just riding along, not passing, not slowing down....just sitting there in the blind spot. The car driver had his head crammed up his ass and unknowingly took up what little room the biker had, causing him to lose control and hit the truck.

The bike rider should, most definitely, have seen that situation developing and taken evasive action....from what I saw there, he is extremely inexperienced or just plain numb from the ankles up. Probly shouldn't even be riding a motorcycle.

 

[Redbone]

I think the rider put himself in danger on this one. Not saying the driver is faultless but the rider could have picked a better place/ time to overtake. The car turning left made the driver fade to the right , probably a unconscious defensive move that proved critical to the rider in the drivers RH blind spot.
It doesn't take much time in traffic for bad situations to form up, be careful out there guys!