I used to frequently go to a small local restraint in my neighbor hood, where I lived at the time,1968 to 1969.This guy was also a frequent costumer too.He would sit next to me at the counter & we would just shoot the ****.Seemed like a nice guy to me.....To bad, I never got his autograph.After the murders. Everyone at this little restraint was in shock!!! We actually had personal contact with him.One waitress would always say, here comes Charley. True storyhttp://news.yahoo.com/photo-shows-old-man-manson-77-214715045.html