our first ride together, with pics

[mattness]

my friend and i were on our way to the motogp, we pulled into a small town just to see some old buildings and ride through a wooden covered bridge...

well we were in this town for 20 seconds... literally our first stop sign, a cop pulls up behind us and tailgates us for a quarter mile and then throws on his cherries and berries,

apparently he didnt have his headlight on, (it was a 1980 cb400, it had a switch to turn it off, im still not sure if its required by law on bikes that old, if anyone knows, get with me) the cop runs his license, and comes to the conclusion that it is suspended. he had a speeding ticket that was pending payment...

so he calls the towing company to come impound it, they get there and i tell them ill ride it home(you have to have a motorcycle endorsement btw to ride an impound bike off the lot) and wed pay and save them the trouble of loading up the bike. they ask the cop if theyre allowed to just give it to me and save the trouble of hauling it down the road... literally we could see the impound lot...

after a few mins of talking about it the cop agrees its too much of a hassle to get it loaded into the truck to go 400 feet and unload it again, so he lets me ride it to his brothers house down the road.

he gets a 150 dollar ticket for the headlight, a 250 dollar ticket for driving on a suspended license, a 100 dollar impound fee... the cop takes his license and his motorcycle permit...

so we missed the motoGP but made it to the XDL stunt show and watched that instead, we had to drive my car F COPS!!!!

but wait.. it gets better...

turns out his license was never suspended, he had a pending ticket... hed just gotten the ticket 2 weeks before this...

so they drop the ticket for driving on a suspended license and give him his license back... but the cop lost his motorcycle permit so he had to pay for a new one... this was a huge mess.

TLDR version, small town cops can be decks, because they werent good enough to be city cops. this town maybe has 150 residents, 75% being elderly


(edit) he called his mom while the cop was running his **** and was flipping out.. MOM THEYRE GONNA ARREST ME... NO ITS NOT A JOKE.... PLLLLEEEEEAAASSEE

 

[mattness]

one day i was cruising through town and a car was half in my lane, so i gave it some throttle to make some noise, maybe get the headlight up... hehe

anyways, cop sees the whole thing, pulls me over, asked me why i "got on it"

i told him that lady on the cell phone almost ran me over, i gave it some throttle so shed know i was there... it saved my life..

he let me go. he was a major ****** bag, i didnt like his tone. he left his brights on so i couldnt see his face while i stood in front of the car.

 

[GREEN light BLITZ]

"oh,whats that officer? You ran out of donuts??? Lemme do one for you then!":th_flipthebird:

Im not sayin cops are bad...but get back to the ****** robbery 3 blocks down or the guy beatin his wife 2 streets over and leave me alone for my 15 mph speeding.

They should have a hauling *** certification so some of us can legally speed if you prove youre capable of doing so safely.:biglaugh:

 

[KJShover]

my friend and i were on our way to the motogp, we pulled into a small town just to see some old buildings and ride through a wooden covered bridge...

well we were in this town for 20 seconds... literally our first stop sign, a cop pulls up behind us and tailgates us for a quarter mile and then throws on his cherries and berries,

apparently he didnt have his headlight on, (it was a 1980 cb400, it had a switch to turn it off, im still not sure if its required by law on bikes that old, if anyone knows, get with me) the cop runs his license, and comes to the conclusion that it is suspended. he had a speeding ticket that was pending payment...

Actually he wouldn't come up with the conclusion, the person at the dispatch would have given him the information. But, if he came up from behind you, how would he know that the headlight wasn't on.

so he calls the towing company to come impound it, they get there and i tell them ill ride it home(you have to have a motorcycle endorsement btw to ride an impound bike off the lot) and wed pay and save them the trouble of loading up the bike. they ask the cop if theyre allowed to just give it to me and save the trouble of hauling it down the road... literally we could see the impound lot...

after a few mins of talking about it the cop agrees its too much of a hassle to get it loaded into the truck to go 400 feet and unload it again, so he lets me ride it to his brothers house down the road.

Not too bad, normally once a cop gets it in his head to impound, your ride is gone.

he gets a 150 dollar ticket for the headlight, a 250 dollar ticket for driving on a suspended license, a 100 dollar impound fee... the cop takes his license and his motorcycle permit.

Shouldn't have been an impound fee if you rode the bide away like you said. I'd get that money back.

but wait.. it gets better...

turns out his license was never suspended, he had a pending ticket... hed just gotten the ticket 2 weeks before this...

so they drop the ticket for driving on a suspended license and give him his license back... but the cop lost his motorcycle permit so he had to pay for a new one... this was a huge mess.

As he should have.

TLDR version, small town cops can be decks, because they werent good enough to be city cops. this town maybe has 150 residents, 75% being elderly

The mall in buggtussle wasn't hiring that week.

(edit) he called his mom while the cop was running his **** and was flipping out.. MOM THEYRE GONNA ARREST ME... NO ITS NOT A JOKE.... PLLLLEEEEEAAASSEE

Called mommy? no comment :rofl_200:

 

[KJShover]

"oh,whats that officer? You ran out of donuts??? Lemme do one for you then!":th_flipthebird:

Im not sayin cops are bad...but get back to the ****** robbery 3 blocks down or the guy beatin his wife 2 streets over and leave me alone for my 15 mph speeding.

Probably cause they are getting tied up by some ******* who dosn't realize that you look around your surroundings and thier's a proper time and place to do stupid **** on the road.

Kinda like the story.. X-"My friend got a ticket/arrested by a stupid cop." Y- "what did he do?" X-"he stole this/he had a few drinks then went home"

I agree there are alot of badge happy bubba's out there. but keep in mind for every Dumb bubba, there is about 30 dumber kids that think they have the god given right to be stupid. I've stopped alot of them, even been to a few of thier funerals. I've ticketed them and let a few go. I followed this criteria.

*how stupid you are - if I felt it was bad enough we were going to have a chat. lesser offences/momentary lapses of judgement and I'd just let you know that I saw it, and not to do it again or slow it down, .

*Attitude - I've based writing a citation on a good attitude, especially if I caught you red handed. "Don't you have any real criminals to catch?" will get you written up in a heartbeat. newsflash, to a traffic cop, you are the criminal.

*How dumb they think I am - try to pull one over on me, it isn't going to end well. There was a guy driving around spinning his tires, and being stupid (reckless driving 10pts off the license stupid) upon getting pulled over. he immediately popped the hood and opened it up (mind you, you can hear this car from 10 miles away and the engine wasn't racing at all.) Then trys to tell the story of how his throttle always sticks wide open. So calling his bluff the car was impounded for unsafe vehicle operating on the highway. So what do you do, eat the $400 impound fee or loose your license and then eat the $600+ in fines that come with being stupid in the wrong place. He wimpered as his car went away.

I'd say out of several thousand traffic stops, I've cited about half. but its the dumb people that crack me up the most. I had a girl one time try and charm me. she asked if I gave pretty girls tickets. I told her that my GF never got a ticket by charming the officer. So then I handed her her ticket and told her that this was for all the ugly girls. The look on that cute little face was priceless.

 

[KJShover]

apparently he didnt have his headlight on, (it was a 1980 cb400, it had a switch to turn it off, im still not sure if its required by law on bikes that old, if anyone knows, get with me) PLLLLEEEEEAAASSEE

I looked it up, your required to have it lit up on anything newer than a '56.

http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=in

the noise law, looks like you guys down there can run anything you want as far as pipes, like up here:clapping: you have to love the "no acustucal criteria"

 

[dannymax]

Equal time for the good cop!!

On the way back south from the Pizza Run this summer we were trying to beat a huge rain storm moving in from the west. I was leading a group of 5 or 6 bikes (mostly max's) at the brisk rate of 70 mph.

We were on a 55 speed limit, 2-lane, rural state highway and 70 was comfortably quick. We were making good time.

As we crested a small rise with a sweeping right hander we met 3 oncoming cars....the last of which was a NYS Trooper!

I thought....Uh-Oh! We're screwed, and looked in my mirror to see if he was going to turn around.

He didn't turn around but did flash his brake lights 3 times as if to say, "OK boys, I know you're trying to get ahead of the storm....just reel it in a little, please!"

I said a silent "Thank you, sir!!" and brought it back to 59 mph! unk:

 

[Redbone]

Where I live now and the place I had my first 2 bikes I have known the police. My first bike and cops didn't seem to get along too much but I think they were just trying to see what kind of a person i was. I was getting pulled over for stuff like my DT250's aftermarket rubber enduro taillight and license plate holder held my plate kinda horizontal so I was pulled over. I just bent the plate down to about 30 degrees and he wass ok with that. He rercognized me from the HS football team so we talked about 15 minutes.
I have always gave respect and recieved it back from all the officers I have been pulled over by and it paid dividends when they started writing in the ticket book.:clapping:

 

[dannymax]

Where I live now and the place I had my first 2 bikes I have known the police. My first bike and cops didn't seem to get along too much but I think they were just trying to see what kind of a person i was. I was getting pulled over for stuff like my DT250's aftermarket rubber enduro taillight and license plate holder held my plate kinda horizontal so I was pulled over. I just bent the plate down to about 30 degrees and he wass ok with that. He rercognized me from the HS football team so we talked about 15 minutes.
I have always gave respect and recieved it back from all the officers I have been pulled over by and it paid dividends when they started writing in the ticket book.:clapping:

It's a simple formula really......I try to treat people, all people, the way I like to be treated.

It doesn't always work, but that's life. unk:

 

[mattness]

here in indiana, we have cops getting arrested by the FBI lol!!

sheriff molested 17 yr old boy from craigslist

retired sheriff steals scrap metal and gasoline from lake santee, employess at the lake were too scared to call the police because they thought they were ALL in on it and were going to retaliate

councilor arrested by fbi in indianapolis, no reason why, most people think its for bribes and cover ups, he was a "major" IIRC

gambling ring busted. surprise surprise 2 out of the 10 people arrested are local police officers

prostitution, multiple times by mulitple officers

and my personal favorite, 2 cops arrested for busting up one gang and taking their drugs.... and going across town and selling it to another gang.....

cop in ohio a few months ago was caught going 140+ mph on his cbr? cops cover it up but somehow it leaks and other officers find out and turn him in. he got suspended

 

[GREEN light BLITZ]

Dont get me wrong, I respect the hell out of law enforcement and when they pull me over to smack my wrist Im all "yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, sorry sir"and do my best to keep my attitude out of the equation,hes got plenty to worry about without me lying and being a **** but doesnt it just feel like they are out to get you some times?

It just feels like hmmm...If the worst thing I do is speed 20 over on a wide open freeway cant you give me a break? Kinda like a silent agreement of "you dont write me this ticket and for the NEXT 19 year of my life you wont have to deal with me,nor will your fellow officers"

Just feels like I leave the house a little too quick and look...a fine. One block over a stolen car leaves a driveway with a drunk driver and a glove box full of dope on its way to get chop shopped and hes never caught.

I think we need an Autoban!Get it outta our system before it lands us a ticket.

 

[KJShover]

here in indiana, we have cops getting arrested by the FBI lol!!

sheriff molested 17 yr old boy from craigslist

retired sheriff steals scrap metal and gasoline from lake santee, employess at the lake were too scared to call the police because they thought they were ALL in on it and were going to retaliate

councilor arrested by fbi in indianapolis, no reason why, most people think its for bribes and cover ups, he was a "major" IIRC

gambling ring busted. surprise surprise 2 out of the 10 people arrested are local police officers

prostitution, multiple times by mulitple officers

and my personal favorite, 2 cops arrested for busting up one gang and taking their drugs.... and going across town and selling it to another gang.....

You folks do know that sherrifs are elected right? they dont go through the ranks like other departments. It's possible and has happend in several towns to elect someone who don't know a thing about lae enforcement, but just talks a good story. if you vote them in what does that say about the educated voters. Generally, new sherrif brings new deputys.

Everyone of your examples can and has been applied to, the Amish, Clergy, Polititions, Heads of State, Business leaders, Teachers. point is crooks are everywhere.

As for the Councellor, everyone knows a lawyer is out for one person, themselves. And if the FBI was truly involved is wasn't small and it was federal.

 

[RaWarrior]

Both times I've gotten stopped (once on my Magna, and once in a car), it was by some fresh-outta-the-academy kid who couldn't have been a day over 18, out to prove how big his nuts were to everybody. One time was for 72 in a 55, and the other was 79 in a 65- not exactly major offenses, but both times were late at night on deserted roads so Johnny Law was bored and hadn't shown his shiny new bagde to anybody recently.

So when I got stopped on the Magna, it was a little after midnight on a two-lane 55mph road. Car pulls up right on my *** for probably 15-20 seconds, and I mean like 3ft or less from my rear tire. Then the "whoop whoop" and the lights. I pull over and shut the motor off. The young as hell whipper-snapper cop gets out of the car, leaving every single light on, the damn cop car was like a rolling light show and lit up the entire street. Cop comes over and points a flashlight right in my face the entire time we talk. License, reg, insurance, do you know why I stopped you(no, please inform me), I clocked you going this fast(may I see that on your radar unit? uhhhhhh.....no), yadda yadda yadda.
He gets back in the car, and then takes the spotlights in the doors and points both right at me, as if I wasn't adequately lit up by his hibeams. Takes easily 15 minutes of me sitting there for him to "be right back". When he returns, he checks the little sticker on the tag for current reg, then checks the inspection sticker on the fork. He asks to see my helmet(a full face), to check if it's DOT approved---what a n00b! Even went so far as to check the tire treads....what an *******, he probably looked up motorcycle equipment law while he was sitting there to see if there was anything else he could bag me for. What a prick. And just his tone/attitude through the whole thing was presumptuous at the least, and downright snotty at worst.

I've found the trick to avoiding cops on the highway is just to ride in a pack, and ride fast. 90+. Done that several times on the thruway, and a cop has yet to even pull out after us.

 

[gamorg02]

Both times I've gotten stopped (once on my Magna, and once in a car), it was by some fresh-outta-the-academy kid who couldn't have been a day over 18, out to prove how big his nuts were to everybody. One time was for 72 in a 55, and the other was 79 in a 65- not exactly major offenses, but both times were late at night on deserted roads so Johnny Law was bored and hadn't shown his shiny new bagde to anybody recently.

So when I got stopped on the Magna, it was a little after midnight on a two-lane 55mph road. Car pulls up right on my *** for probably 15-20 seconds, and I mean like 3ft or less from my rear tire. Then the "whoop whoop" and the lights. I pull over and shut the motor off. The young as hell whipper-snapper cop gets out of the car, leaving every single light on, the damn cop car was like a rolling light show and lit up the entire street. Cop comes over and points a flashlight right in my face the entire time we talk. License, reg, insurance, do you know why I stopped you(no, please inform me), I clocked you going this fast(may I see that on your radar unit? uhhhhhh.....no), yadda yadda yadda.
He gets back in the car, and then takes the spotlights in the doors and points both right at me, as if I wasn't adequately lit up by his hibeams. Takes easily 15 minutes of me sitting there for him to "be right back". When he returns, he checks the little sticker on the tag for current reg, then checks the inspection sticker on the fork. He asks to see my helmet(a full face), to check if it's DOT approved---what a n00b! Even went so far as to check the tire treads....what an *******, he probably looked up motorcycle equipment law while he was sitting there to see if there was anything else he could bag me for. What a prick. And just his tone/attitude through the whole thing was presumptuous at the least, and downright snotty at worst.

I've found the trick to avoiding cops on the highway is just to ride in a pack, and ride fast. 90+. Done that several times on the thruway, and a cop has yet to even pull out after us.

never ever heard of a cop checking the DOT s ticker on the helmet. i got pulled over ocne wearing my 'novelty' helmet. cop never looked.

 

[KJShover]

Why all the lights on you at night. night proceedure is to light your *** up. Use the takedown light on the roof and the spots on the side of the patrol car. Generally are aimed at the rearview mirror in order to interfear with yout vision.

It gives you the advantage on the approach. Also don't walk past the "B" pillar on the vehicle. Again for an advantage and safety. the cop don't know who you are, and they really don't want this to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X14ID3zybSk&feature=related

After first contact thats normally when the decision is made to start shutting off the extra lights. Some departments' policy is to leave them on. My first department wanted me to leave them on, while the second allowed me more grace.

I'm willing to bet that if if he would have followed these simple things, this would have turned out different.

The rest sounds like you've got a rookie who just got out of FTO and was still in "check everything on the list" mode. That normally goes away in about 6-8 months. Longer if you have a supervisor that previews your dashcam during thier probationary period.

 

[RaWarrior]

Some cops need to realize that the "light your *** up" is often a major hazard to other traffic on the road. I absolutely hate it when a cop has somebody pulled over on the highwayat night, with like 8 different strobe lights going facing oncoming traffic. It's absolutely blinding. Good job you've "obscured the vision" of your target, as well as everybody else on the road. The cop car's two tail lights are perfectly adequate warning, I don't need strobing arrows, flashing red and blue lights, and those dance-hall strobe lights where the reverse lights should be to alert me that a car is pulled over. And you're right, they were both pointed at my mirrors, so I just adjusted the mirror slightly. Does he not realize mirrors are adjustable?

And something else the rookie cop will probably realize, is that if I had wanted(been able) to dust him, I wouldn't have stopped- the whole time he was expecting me to hop on the bike and take off. If I had been on the Max when I saw the headlights approaching, I would have matted the gas and been out of sight in seconds, and he wouldn't have had a chance. Can I outrun the radio? That depends if there's somebody in front of me listening, and if they know where I'm going.

A Crown Vic is no match for a Vmax...the PI package Crown will see about 130 on a good day, and is sluggish past about 110. The 500cc Magna was a peppy bike, but it just didn't have tha kahones for quick jaunts into triple digits. I briefly considered making a dash for it, but just didn't have enough faith in the half-liter mill.

 

[KJShover]

Some cops need to realize that the "light your *** up" is often a major hazard to other traffic on the road. I absolutely hate it when a cop has somebody pulled over on the highwayat night, with like 8 different strobe lights going facing oncoming traffic. It's absolutely blinding. Good job you've "obscured the vision" of your target, as well as everybody else on the road.

Call and complain, When done properly using the takedown light and spot light, will not hit oncoming traffic.

The cop car's two tail lights are perfectly adequate warning, I don't need strobing arrows, flashing red and blue lights, and those dance-hall strobe lights where the reverse lights should be to alert me that a car is pulled over.

Believe it or not, there are standards for lighting an emergency vehicle as well as it's usage. Department policy will dictate this as well. I have to admit though, other than an old woman who complained that the ambulance had too many lights on it, had an issue with red lights.

And you're right, they were both pointed at my mirrors, so I just adjusted the mirror slightly. Does he not realize mirrors are adjustable?

Your now concentrated on moving the mirrors and not the guy walking up on you, see my point about advantage?

And something else the rookie cop will probably realize, is that if I had wanted(been able) to dust him, I wouldn't have stopped

Kinda hard to shoot while riding, don't ya think ?

the whole time he was expecting me to hop on the bike and take off.

Generally thats just a rookie being a rookie (assuming he is a rookie, otherwise he's a complete tool), no one hits the ground running perfectly in a new job, I'm sure in your 20 years on this earth you can understand that. he was probably trying to make the stop as brief as possible if he was a rookie (again insert tool remark again) and still cross the T's and dot the I's.

I remember my first stop, damn near 30 min. between dealing with the driver and the delay in dispatch. eventually a single ticket citation stop was in and out in about 5-7 min. from first contact.

 

[RaWarrior]

Shoot while riding? What? :ummm: No, I'd rather avoid a life sentence. And who needs measly bullets anyway when you ride a "cruise missile"? :rofl_200:

It took about 3 seconds to direct his door spotlight away from my face, he was sitting in his car looking up motorcycle law for a good 15 minutes. I see no advantage other than pissing me off, which I suppose was his goal. And if you want to look at it from a tactical standpoint, he stopped far enough away that I could have straddled the bike, started it, and been gone in less time than he could reached me, for whatever reason. So, the lights are just an annoyance. But then again, this is a speeding ticket, not a suspected terrorist arms dealer or something. I wasn't about to jet halfway through, I'm not stupid. I know they have your tag # before they even whoop-whoop you, and dash cams record everything you say and do.

Alaska must have better cops than NY. Every time I go on the highway at night some state trooper is blinding everybody on the road with those new LED strobe bars on top of their car. There's no "doing it properly", they're either on or off, and if they're on everybody going either direction gets blinded. They're annoyingly bright during the day, let alone at night. They started showing up about a year ago, I guess the revolving red and blues weren't "loud" enough.

I know there are lighting requirements about official vehicles. The state cop cars around here exceed the required lighting by about 10x, and Paterson wonders why the state is millions in debt. Ambulances, fire marshalls, ect have revolving lights that get your attention when you see them in your mirror so you can slide over. State cops put their high-beams on wig-wag, in addition to the strobe bar. I literally have to put my hand up in front of the mirror, and then I can't see the cop car at all. Way to go, that's safe. So if a few motorists go in the ditch because some cop found a gram of pot in somebody's car, it's totally justified. That pisses me off all over the place. Then they hassle people about having a few small LED's in the engines of their bikes, calling it "distracting" to other motorists- one of my friends got hassled about this at a checkpoint last year.

There's a clear difference between being professional, and being an ******* just for poops and giggles. The other time I was stopped was in PA, another young-ish cop, but it was totally different. Fast, to the point, no BS nit-picking. No attitude whatsoever. Yes/no questions. Cop was doing his job and I can respect that. Not to mention the PA speeding ticket was about half the one in NY.

I have no problem with cops in general. It's the guys that like to hide behind their badge as an excuse to push people around, and legally be an *******. Which is probably 1% of them, I just got lucky.

Anyway, this sure drifted off-topic. I'm done.

 

[GREEN light BLITZ]

ya know it took me like 2 months to finally name my Max?

One day I had an epiphony...the posture of a cruiser and the speed of a crotch rocket...

Ill name her "Cruise Missile"! Good one right? Im sure Im not the first one to think it but hey I thought it was good on my own.:rofl_200: