Potus hopeful Clinton....resume'

[tothemax93]

I heard this interview the other day. Trump talks a little about his previous relationship with the clintons.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-you-dont-have-to-use-the-word-alleged-video/

 

[poppop]

I definitely appreciate this view on things, its hard to dispute the shitstorm. My comment about choice was an optimistic one regarding the remote possibility that another candidate could join the race, and even more remotely be qualified. Crooked politicians, all, without any doubt. Trump is saying whatever he has to for office, including a knife to the back of former cohorts, that showcases a serious personality flaw, a dealbreaker among many dealbreakers. I love a guy that goes against the grain and doesnt sweat the PC ******** others live by, we need that now more tthan ever. A question that begs to be asked is whats in it for Trump? Theres a return in it for him somewhere or he would not bother with this. There will be no wall and Mexico will surely not pay for it. He stands to loose more than anyone in the USA with any imigration reform, he has yet to cleanse his own workforce of undocumented workers which raises some serious questions about his true motives and integrity. I love what he's doing but we need a considerably better man doing it. Him starting to make sense now will be way to little way to late, we will never unsee or unhear the real Trump.

No one can see the future As far as him stabbing the clinton's and other's in the back,They deserved it,There not out for america there out for themselves,And there 1%.They all talk.What we have now is a lot like the scandal series on tv.Don't like trump?Ok show me a better one.11 month's is a long time,Guess we will see.If he win's and doesn't do what he says,Guess we will truly be over. America gone.

 

[caseyjones955]

Trump has been trashing on them pretty hardcore, the above post was pretty mild by comparison, even if they do have it coming. A man that turns on friends is a man nobody can trust. You just dont do **** like that. I believe anyone running would be a less tragic choice, but still tragic. Hillary and Donald would take a very different route to the same result we all fear.

I have to say that I respect how seriously you take this, my hats off to folks that realize just how dire tthis situation really is regardless of who they may vote for. I cannot argue on bahalf of any of these clowns so I will agree to disagree, respectfully of course. Our best option to reclaim the USA has nothing to do with an election, waiting for an elected official to "make America great again" has not been working out so well over the last few decades. We wont get to far into the next administration before we realize there never was a correct choice.

 

[sdt354]

As long as Hillery isn't in the White House, it's a victory. My happiest day would be the one where she withdraws.

 

[dannymax]

Trump has been trashing on them pretty hardcore, the above post was pretty mild by comparison, even if they do have it coming. A man that turns on friends is a man nobody can trust. You just dont do **** like that. I believe anyone running would be a less tragic choice, but still tragic. Hillary and Donald would take a very different route to the same result we all fear.

I have to say that I respect how seriously you take this, my hats off to folks that realize just how dire tthis situation really is regardless of who they may vote for. I cannot argue on bahalf of any of these clowns so I will agree to disagree, respectfully of course. Our best option to reclaim the USA has nothing to do with an election, waiting for an elected official to "make America great again" has not been working out so well over the last few decades. We wont get to far into the next administration before we realize there never was a correct choice.

In our world this is very true, we have loyalty to our friends and riding buddies....and even to folks we have never met personally such as here on the forum.

But I seriously doubt that's the case in the lofty world of national and international politics....it's all 'what can he or she do for me' or 'how best can I use this person to further my agenda'.....etc. Back stabbing, double talk and about face turnarounds are an everyday occurrence and considered "just business....nothing personal"

 

[caseyjones955]

In our world this is very true, we have loyalty to our friends and riding buddies....and even to folks we have never met personally such as here on the forum.

But I seriously doubt that's the case in the lofty world of national and international politics....it's all 'what can he or she do for me' or 'how best can I use this person to further my agenda'.....etc. Back stabbing, double talk and about face turnarounds are an everyday occurrence and considered "just business....nothing personal"

I know your right. Its funny because when he does it he looks worse, not better, I think the betrayals are supposed to be on the DL. Maybe I'm just getting old but its hard to take. If I knew Trump not as a Kardashian-grade celebrity but as just a guy in a circle of friends/associares I would punch him in the throat for **** like that. If Rand had the balls of Trump we might have someone worth a vote. Im no longer worried that Hillary or Trump will be taken seriously by election day, I'm very worried about who will. In any event we have some very serious problems ahead with this standard of norms that you have illuminated, probably quite accurately.

 

[poppop]

Our Government did work,When there was corruption it was struck down!Andrew jackson did it,Better than half his term was to destroy the federal reserve.America was great,Right now there is so much wrong,I can't even think of where to start.I was for rand too,But when push came to shove he folded.No matter what Hillary said she is all ready on the wrong side.Mainstream media is clearly against trump.All the politician are backed by super packs,Except bernie and trump.You say our best choice to reclaim america has nothing to do with a election,Ok what do you recommend?Voting is the only choice i see,Even though there is corruption there as well.Hell all we can do is vote.vote. Im 59 My kids and grand kids gotta grow up in this country.Trump may get a lil colorful but what he sais is what i want.What we had in the 60 @70s Wasn't perfect but a hell of a lot better then

 

[caseyjones955]

Our Government did work,When there was corruption it was struck down!Andrew jackson did it,Better than half his term was to destroy the federal reserve.America was great,Right now there is so much wrong,I can't even think of where to start.I was for rand too,But when push came to shove he folded.No matter what Hillary said she is all ready on the wrong side.Mainstream media is clearly against trump.All the politician are backed by super packs,Except bernie and trump.You say our best choice to reclaim america has nothing to do with a election,Ok what do you recommend?Voting is the only choice i see,Even though there is corruption there as well.Hell all we can do is vote.vote. Im 59 My kids and grand kids gotta grow up in this country.Trump may get a lil colorful but what he sais is what i want.What we had in the 60 @70s Wasn't perfect but a hell of a lot better then

I agree with virtually all of the above. That rand needs backbone, that the 60s - 70s was the most recent era of effective leadership and that we need corful. Im 47 but I see the Hx pattern. Trump is where I disagree. The following is my opinion as a nurse with some psych experience, Trump suffers from untreated bipolarity with a twist of schizophrenia, again an opinion based on interpersonal and professional experience but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever. He scares the tears out of me when I imagine him taking oath. I know we all want to believe him but we need to be honest with ourselves and each other about where we stand as Americans and what we are facing. Trump or Clinton will only accelerate the inevitable. We are ******. There is no right answer but a couple terribly wrong ones linger at this time.

To answer your question, revolution. I aint doing it but I see it coming. Voting now is like pissing up a waterfall but I will vote and do whatever the atheist version of praying is.

 

[poppop]

We all see things the way we do,Be it politics religion whatever.I appreciate you view and wish you well.Thank you for the conservation,Poppop.

 

[caseyjones955]

We all see things the way we do,Be it politics religion whatever.I appreciate you view and wish you well.Thank you for the conservation,Poppop.

Different views keep it interesting, the ability to debate and disagree without personal attacks is valuable, especially since it seems we all want tbe same end result. Although we disagree you have my respect. Best wishes to you as well. Tony

 

[dannymax]

I agree with virtually all of the above. That rand needs backbone, that the 60s - 70s was the most recent era of effective leadership and that we need corful. Im 47 but I see the Hx pattern. Trump is where I disagree. The following is my opinion as a nurse with some psych experience, Trump suffers from untreated bipolarity with a twist of schizophrenia, again an opinion based on interpersonal and professional experience but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever. He scares the tears out of me when I imagine him taking oath. I know we all want to believe him but we need to be honest with ourselves and each other about where we stand as Americans and what we are facing. Trump or Clinton will only accelerate the inevitable. We are ******. There is no right answer but a couple terribly wrong ones linger at this time.

To answer your question, revolution. I aint doing it but I see it coming. Voting now is like pissing up a waterfall but I will vote and do whatever the atheist version of praying is.

This is what bothers me more than anything else....because I suspect it to be true and the implications are very scary!

 

[tothemax93]

Trump is where I disagree. The following is my opinion as a nurse with some psych experience, Trump suffers from untreated bipolarity with a twist of schizophrenia, again an opinion based on interpersonal and professional experience but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

I'd like to hear your psych diagnosis of Hillary. Is there a medical term for pure evil?:biglaugh: Maybe sociopath, refering to lack of conscience to meet her agenda.

 

[caseyjones955]

Fair enough, Im not sure on her. I wasn't catapulted from my chair having witnessed a blazing mental illness as I was with Trump. Im primarily a geriatric nurse now so someone that works psych full time may have an opinion other than mine of simple idiocy and the normal fixins' that seem to go with politicians.

Sooo aside from being an ***** IMHO she is in considerably better mental health than Trump. Dont get me wrong, she would **** us just as hard and fast as he will in the extremely unlikely event either of them get into office.

So in summation I am sure of idiocy and further speculate ******l dryness, probably fairly cold to, like cold and clammy but somehow still dry, probably a funk down there to, I hope I covered everything :clapping:

 

[MtnMax/Magniac]

Charles Krauthammer on Hillary Clinton

Recently, Charles Krauthammer alluded that he had no doubt some of the 30k emails Hillary deleted from her private e-mail server very likely had references to the Clinton Foundation, which would be illegal and a conflict of interest.

The Clinton Foundation is "organized crime" at its finest

Here is a good, concise summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a tax free international money laundering scheme. It may eventually prove to be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. history. This is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free.

Here's how it works:

1. You create a separate foreign "charity." In this case, the Clintons set it up in Canada.

2. Foreign oligarchs and governments, then donate to this Canadian charity. In this case, over 1,000 did -- contributing mega millions. I'm sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts, and expected nothing in return. (Imagine Putin's buddies waking up one morning and just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity).

3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.

4. The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors.

5. The Clinton Foundation then "spends" some of this money for legitimate good works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is on the order of 10%. Much of the balance goes to enrich the Clintons, pay salaries to untold numbers of hangers on, and fund lavish travel, etc. Again, virtually all tax free, which means you and I are subsidizing it.

6. The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world's best accountants, somehow fails to report much of this on their tax filings. They discover these "clerical errors" and begin the process of re-filing 5 years of tax returns.

7. Net result -- foreign money goes into the Clinton's pockets tax free and untraceable back to the original donor. This is the textbook definition of money laundering.

Oh, by the way, the Canadian "charity" includes as a principal one Frank Giustra. Google him. (see wikipedia link below) He is the guy who was central to the formation of Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow acquired massive U.S. uranium interests and then sold them to an organization controlled by Russia. This transaction required U.S. State Department approval, and guess who was Secretary of State when the approval was granted.

As an aside, imagine how former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell feels. That poor schlep is in jail because he and his wife took $165,000 in gifts and loans for doing minor favors for a guy promoting a vitamin company. Not legal but not exactly putting U.S. security at risk.

Sarcasm aside, if you're still not persuaded this was a cleverly structured way to get unidentified foreign money to the Clinton's, ask yourself this:

Why did these foreign interests funnel money through a Canadian charity? Why not donate directly to the Clinton Foundation? Better yet, why not donate money directly to the people, organizations and countries in need?

This is the essence of money laundering and influence peddling.

Now you know why Hillary's destruction of 30,000 e-mails was a risk she was willing to take.

Bill and Hillary are devious, unprincipled, dishonest and criminal , and they are Slick! Warning: They could be back in the White House in January 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_One

 

[MtnMax/Magniac]

Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it's kinda fun and revealing. If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers.

And, no, the answers to these questions aren't all "Barack Obama".

Who said it?

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... In order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong II
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above




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Answers
(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

 

[caseyjones955]

Great questionnaire, I figured Obama for the vast majority but Obama and Clinton seem almost interchangeable, I should get half credit on that rationale.unk:

I had to laugh because I know I sounded grimm a few posts up about my opinion of the only way out from under this mess and it wasnt hours later I read on Reuters about the citizens currently occupying the wildlife reserve in OR and the history of success in past demonstrations including hundreds of armed citizens. This is precisely why the 2nd amendment is so vital to our way of life. If we do this right our leaders will be terrified of the repercussions of being caught ******* us like the Clintons have with their foundation. I don't think we're that far from an era where she would be in hiding instead of running for office.

 

[dannymax]

Potus is looking into passing gun control legislation by executive order.....doing an end run on Congress! Says "this is what the people of this country including gun owners want!"

 

[MtnMax/Magniac]

I'm with this guy

 

[tothemax93]

Potus is looking into passing gun control legislation by executive order.....doing an end run on Congress! Says "this is what the people of this country including gun owners want!"

Looks like there will be another big rush on buying guns and ammo. He's got to be the gun makers best sales rep ever. The country as a whole is probably better armed today, than anytime in previous history. He better tread lightly. looks like the country is getting tired of him stepping on the Constitution.

 

[caseyjones955]

Im glad hes doing it, the more he does, the more citizens will realize how serious a threat he/they have become. He has the green light from me to enact complete gun control, further setting the "us against them" mood. There are likely some gun owners and 2nd amendment proponents out there that aren't completely pissed yet, this should fix that right the **** up. Gasoline on the fire.