Zepto, Proton, Rizoma turnsignals

[sidwin]

i made a quick video of all 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMYQS31PP8

the rizoma are awesome. note you have to order a pair of them. finish is awesome and kit if very complete. it comes with the proper resistors and the hardware such as washers and precrimped connectors. Downside is the stem is rather long and comes really close to hitting the rear fender once bolted in. It sits almost in the hole of original one. installation was a little bit of a pain trying to get that 17mm bolt off. install time was about 2 hrs trying to get everything fitting nice and flush. The damn resistors are so big and trying to make space in the tool bag area.

I would have went with rizoma's in the front but you lose day time running. I have the proton's on my fz1 and i love the fact they offer constantly fade in and out. the proton's do require wire splicing and do not include male/female butt connectors. I found out hightechspeed.com is the distributor for both them and the zepto's.

The zepto's offer programmable flash rate which i like and the daytime running light. it is so skinny i had to put a washer to be able to use my stock windshield. i also had to add another washer next to the screw since they replace the huge 17mm with a 13mm one. installation was easy, programming was easy. Fitment and finish looked great.

Thanks,
Sid

 

[Redbone]

I have the Rizoma Zero 11's on the back and they are BRIGHT! I have another set of 11's for the front but since they are not running lights I am going to have to figure a running light setup.

 

[Itgoes]

Very nice!

I used plasma rods on the front of my Gen 2.......I'm not sure if these will fit the Gen 1 radiator or not.

I'm very happy with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msa2NmG9Pyw

 

[Miles Long]

Very nice!

I used plasma rods on the front of my Gen 2.......I'm not sure if these will fit the Gen 1 radiator or not.

I'm very happy with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msa2NmG9Pyw

I admire you for your innovation, but my concern with your arrangement would be possible confusion of drivers. Long vertical rods, regardless of brightness level, may not immediately be interpreted as turn signals. We are all accustomed to seeing round, or somewhat round, primarly signals, sometimes with a supplementary signal of a different shape as a backup.
Also, you may have lost a little width mounting your lights on the rad trim, as well as height, from the stock location.
Did you check to see if your set up is legal within your jurisdiction?
I don't mean to offend, just concerned for your safety.

 

[Redbone]

Very nice!

I used plasma rods on the front of my Gen 2.......I'm not sure if these will fit the Gen 1 radiator or not.

I'm very happy with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msa2NmG9Pyw

Those are nice but I have aftermarket radiator side grills that I just installed that they may not look right on. I'm thinking that along the top of the radiator might work though, I will still be using my new 11's fpr turnsignals.:hmmm: I'll figure something out here soon.

 

[Fire-medic]

Points for innovation bit I doubt they are DOT legal. They really are not bright enough in daytime use & their placement doesn't allow them to be easily seen if you are on the opposite side of the bike it looks to me. The stuff from Signal Dynamics (SD) is plenty bright & low draw on the electricals. I have a SD rear running light/ brake light (2 intensities red)/ amber turn signals on a license plate frame waiting to be installed & a new look for the front illumination I am still working on which I know will result in superior front lighting. I am currently using a 55/100 watt bulb but want more. I will have plenty more when I finish.

Kudos for trying something different but the function doesn't seem to be = stock in visibility especially for approaching traffic.

 

[Itgoes]

Points for innovation bit I doubt they are DOT legal. They really are not bright enough in daytime use & their placement doesn't allow them to be easily seen if you are on the opposite side of the bike it looks to me. The stuff from Signal Dynamics (SD) is plenty bright & low draw on the electricals. I have a SD rear running light/ brake light (2 intensities red)/ amber turn signals on a license plate frame waiting to be installed & a new look for the front illumination I am still working on which I know will result in superior front lighting. I am currently using a 55/100 watt bulb but want more. I will have plenty more when I finish.

Kudos for trying something different but the function doesn't seem to be = stock in visibility especially for approaching traffic.

Actually they are extremely bright even in the daytime, and they can be seen from the side as well since they extend beyond the radiator.
They are over 8" " long and can't be missed.

I didn't know all you guys were only using DOT aprroved parts on your bikes. :confused2: LOL

 

[Itgoes]

I admire you for your innovation, but my concern with your arrangement would be possible confusion of drivers. Long vertical rods, regardless of brightness level, may not immediately be interpreted as turn signals. We are all accustomed to seeing round, or somewhat round, primarly signals, sometimes with a supplementary signal of a different shape as a backup.
Also, you may have lost a little width mounting your lights on the rad trim, as well as height, from the stock location.
Did you check to see if your set up is legal within your jurisdiction?
I don't mean to offend, just concerned for your safety.

I appreciate that.

I was actually inspired by the lights on Diavel. they are the same shape and in the same location.

 

[Miles Long]

Points for innovation bit I doubt they are DOT legal. They really are not bright enough in daytime use & their placement doesn't allow them to be easily seen if you are on the opposite side of the bike it looks to me. The stuff from Signal Dynamics (SD) is plenty bright & low draw on the electricals. I have a SD rear running light/ brake light (2 intensities red)/ amber turn signals on a license plate frame waiting to be installed & a new look for the front illumination I am still working on which I know will result in superior front lighting. I am currently using a 55/100 watt bulb but want more. I will have plenty more when I finish.

Kudos for trying something different but the function doesn't seem to be = stock in visibility especially for approaching traffic.

Sounds like we share a characteristic, Mr. Medic. I'm very much a "function over form" thinker as well.
I really like the looks of some of the LED replacement signals on the market, but until I find a side by side comparison to the stock "lollipops", I'll stick to what I know is very visible in traffic. And for those who still have the stockers, check this out. Copied from another website, re taillight brightness, but also applies to front signals (same 1157 bulb used). Cheers!

Our Vulcans use dual 1157 bulbs as a combo tail light and brake light. If you'd like a bit more visibility when braking, you can change this bulb out for a 2357 bulb. The 2357 is available at any auto parts store (there's also a 2357A which is yellow). It produces the same brightness for the tail light (3 lumens) but 25% more light for the brake (40 lumens vs. 32)
So why didn't Kawasaki use the 2357 bulb in the first place? Well, there's a downside or two that you'll have to weigh.
The power required to run the 2357 bulb is the same as the 1157 in normal running but with brakes applied there is a slight increase in the amps required (2.1 for the 1157, 2.2 for the 2357). The resulting increase in watts used is 1.28 watts, or a 4.76% increase over the standard 1157 bulb. You probably won't lose any sleep over that. The major sticking point is bulb life. Your 1157 brake light element is rated for 1200 hours while the brighter 2357 element is rated for 400 hours. (The tail light element in both bulbs is rated the same at 5000 hours). THIS JUST IN....If you can find them, Sylvania has a long life 2357 bulb labeled 2357LL which has about double the life of the standard 2357. Read more about it on the Sylvania Website
And the price of 25% more light while braking? About two dollars for both bulbs.

 

[Fire-medic]

"Facts you can use! Yeah, I think if you like the look, or whatever you did looks good to you, then be happy w/your work. Me, I want something that works better & is no-worse for the appearance. Or better-looking, of course!

A brighter bulb is always better for visibility. Just hope you don't have "RaWarrior's" charging issues. The good thing about his work on his system was that we got a good sticky out of it for electrical gremlins.