Tommy Owens is off his MEDS!

This was posted on the VMOA WEB site


Warning about Vmax Forum.net
This is my first post since my resignation. Reason being, I find that I must warn people about Vmaxforum.net.

I went there after I left here by order of my wife for the simple reason that I love my Vmax so much, I wanted to be a part of something somewhere.

The admin over there sells T-shirts. His name is Buster Hymen. He announced that he was set up with PayPal for ordering T-shirts through his site.

Much as I did with VMOA, I jumped on board immediately. I ordered a T-shirt and paid 20 bucks for it. That was on the 11th of this month. I had said that I would love to be wearing it when I went to deals gap on the 25th.

He then told me that it would take 6 to 10 days for it to arrive as he was in Canada. I didn't mind that at all. It should have arrived in plenty of time. I wasn't worried in the least. I got my Paypal confirmation of my purchase, posted here in it's entirety:

Dear Tommy Owens,

This email confirms that you have paid [email protected] ([email protected]) $20.00 USD using PayPal.

This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *DNC".



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Transaction ID: 728882756H2770447
Item Price: $20.00 USD
Total: $20.00 USD
Order Description: XL VMF T-Shirt
Item/Product Number: 143
Buyer: Tommy Owens

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Now then, after that, I waited...and waited. Nothing ever showed up. On Wednesday the 23rd, I sent a private message to Buster asking where my shirt was, that I haven't received it and what was going on. I got no reply. On Thursday the 24th, I sent another message asking the same thing and got no reply. Later that day, pretty pissed off I don't mind telling you all, I posted on the main forum about it and told him the PM thing wasn't working and to answer my damn question and that I would be really pissed off if he didn't answer me right there.

His answer?

He banned me from posting. He disabled my ability to send any PM's and warned me that I had broken the rules of the site.

Right. Now, none of this EVER happened until I posted on the main site. When I did that, he replied to my SECOND PM and said that, "I shipped it on the 13th. I don't know why you don't have it by now."

The 13th was a Sunday, folks. Do any of you know anybody that ships ANYTHING on a SUNDAY?!

I don't.

I then tried to reply to his PM, but that was all disabled. I couldn't. I waited a day to see if it was just some sort of fluke, and it wasn't. I still couldn't. So I tried to post a message that said this:

OK, you'll no doubt delete this and ban me. I've been looking since Sunday night to send a PM, but guess what? I have no buttons anymore to reply to or send a PM. They have all disappeared. Did it ever occur to you to give me a tracking number or something like that so I could see for myself what happened? No?

I guess since you "warned me" about not asking a question about a shirt sold by this site by the operator of this site because I never received it and I haven't been able to get PM's to work right and have no idea what the hell is going on, I'll give you my little warning:

I'm calling AMEX tomorrow evening to report fraud.

Here's his response to that:

I don't delete messages or ban people because they are upset. What I try to do is resolve their issue(s) .
I don't know what the issue is with your PMs, but you obviously are receiving them since you quoted the last PM I sent you. As for the "warning" I sent you, anyone that posts like that would get the same warning. Even in your post you knew it should have been a PM but you posted it anyways. Show some maturity. No one wants to see or hear about personal issues on the forum, that is what PMS are for. If there is an issue with the delivery of your shirt or something with the forum, then just send me a PM.

I already told him I can't. There are no buttons like there used to be for "Send new message" or "reply to this message". They're all gone.

Gee...since he's admin of the site, what do YOU think happened?

Then he said this:

You can report whatever you want, but I have the receipt with your address on it from the Post Office. I deliver enough items through the Post Office that they can verify I mailed the shirt and they have a CCTV system that records 24/7 and, as I have already inquired about this, they can and will pull video records to confirm a parcel drop off. I don't know why you insist that I am ripping you off. I'm not, and there is better ways to handle this.


My original post asked for a tracking number or something. He gave none. He offered none. He's got a receipt, but what the hell does that mean? I've got a receipt from Kroger...does that mean I shipped you a part or a shirt or anything else?

No. It doesn't.

He is a theif of the highest order. He is a liar and a cheat. He is NOT to be trusted. If you even THINK of doing business with that man or that site, DON'T.

If he can't deliver a simple T-shirt and bans you and bars you from any and all activity because TWO WEEKS LATER you STILL haven't received it, then guess what?

He's a damned liar.

Be warned.
Tom

:wacko::wkwk::blahblah2::tantrum:

if hed quit jerking off to all that child porn maybe his internet explorer wouldnt be so jacked up. Somebody order him a bunch of pizza

I don't know what's up Tom's ass but the guy obviously has issues. He has to be the biggest fucking liar I've run across. He claims he sent me 2 PMs about his shirt, but he never sent me any. Instead he posted a crying post about it like a little girl. For someone so ball less with his wife, he sure pretends he has a big set here. I've attached a couple of pictures to show that 1) he hasn't sent any PMs for 2 weeks. The last one he sent me, 2 weeks ago, was to acknowledge my message about the T-shirt and 2) is a picture showing that he can reply to PMs, which shows he is lying about that. He doesn't even have the balls to answer my last PM to work out a solution to this problem. I wish he'd grow up and stop acting like a child.

*Chuckles*

I'm not surprised. Maybe if he'd have put his hands out the window of his home advising he has weapons the postal service wouldn't have been too afraid to show up!

Well here is what I posted in response to his post in the vmoa.net.

Warning! Make sure your wife is not looking over your shoulder or Little kids arent sitting in your lap. The Language May Offend!



Tom You are really an ASSWIPE!
A BALL-LESS ASSWIPE AT THAT!

You quit this site Remember! You resigned from the VMOA.
So DO us all a favor and SELL your VMax! You really have no manhood and don't even come close to resembling anything such as a man.

You are the biggest BABY I have ever met on the internet. When ever something doesn't go exactly the way you want it to, you pitch a fit and wine and cry.

Gary, aka Buster Hymen, Started the VMAX Forum and runs it better than anyone has ever run any site. And he does it for Free. The T-Shirt sales were done at the request of Us members who have been on that forum since he first started it. If he said he mailed you the frigin T-Shirt, then he did! It's the Post office that is delaying it you asswipe!
Calling someone a liar and claiming them to be dishonest from someone like you is Moronic.
Gary is better man than you, and PROVEN to be more Honest than you can ever dream of being.
But that is no surprise to me. I knew you were a Moron the day you threw a tantrum and QUIT THE VMOA!

YOU QUIT THE VMOA AND NOW THE VMAX FORUM.
So STFU and go wine to your wifey about it and leave the MANLY things to real Men!

YOU WUSS!

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:hmmm:........Maybe it was that Supermoto video that set him off?? Who knows? I have purchased my second T-shirt from Buster and I am very pleased with the quality and the awesome design too!
I ordered a xl the first time and when I saw that he had 2xl's for sale I ordered it. The xl fits but it is kinda "form fitting" which is not Busters fault...could it be all thepizza and beer?
Nah, didn't think so! :cheers:

Redbone said:

:hmmm:........Maybe it was that Supermoto video that set him off?? Who knows? I have purchased my second T-shirt from Buster and I am very pleased with the quality and the awesome design too!
I ordered a xl the first time and when I saw that he had 2xl's for sale I ordered it. The xl fits but it is kinda "form fitting" which is not Busters fault...could it be all thepizza and beer?
Nah, didn't think so! :cheers:

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Damn Buster, why didnt you tell me you had 2XL...... Will talk to you soon Gary and get one of those too. Passed on my XL to the wife:biglaugh:

Gangbang:

[email protected]

:rofl_200:

U know it sounds to me like this guy might just be computer illiterate. I would not be suprised at all if he cant figure out how to send a personal message and thinks he sent them but didnt. Take illiteracy on the computer and mix it with a slight bit of paranoid skitso and a whole lot of bullheaded stubborn ignorant impatience and you have a meltdown on your hands.

I set up gps systems in all of the trucks at work, with toughbook laptops, we track everything we spray with gps now and ive had some PISSED off tech support calls from some ignorant ass old men too stupid to use a touchpad and very basic computer skills. it gets frustrating

Tom, after reading all this crap over a t-shirt and last times over Mike's Supermotto thread, etc... tell you what, I'll send you the 20 bucks on one condtion, you do yourself a favor and a favour to Buster and the other members on this site, and get the fuck off this site.

Do me and the others on this site and the VMOA site another favor, and re-read your posts in it's true context to your wife and ask her to decide who is out to lunch.

Mike

maxcruiser said:

Tom, after reading all this crap over a t-shirt and last times over Mike's Supermotto thread, etc... tell you what, I'll send you the 20 bucks on one condtion, you do yourself a favor and a favour to Buster and the other members on this site, and get the fuck off this site.

Do me and the others on this site and the VMOA site another favor, and re-read your posts in it's true context to your wife and ask her to decide who is out to lunch.

Mike

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How is he going to see this? A member of the Yahoo board needs to clear up this ordeal.

I saw the crying posts that Buster is talking about and am amazed. He must be computer illiterate or something.

All this over a 20 dollar T-Shirt! Even IF B had screwed him it wouldn't be worth this.

Of course this is coming from a guy (me) that got it shoved up sideways from Jon Cornell and went off on here... Of course I lost 1100 dollars in the deal.:damn angry: Of course the few people that changed their minds and bought from someone else made it VERY worth it. Muwahahaha

Chris

vmaxinID said:

Gangbang:

[email protected]

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Oh snap! Thats almost worth a great post award!:cheers:

I just read the whole post without logging in.

So little Tommy P-Whipped can do the same.

Then I logged in to post this.

Some time ago I was tempted to post a warning about this guy. Just from reading his posts on the VMOA site and this site, I concluded that he has a serious mental problem. I didn't because I figured he would go postal one time to many and be banned anyway. If anyone has any doubts about this persons problems, just read his posts..... He is serious need of psychological help.

Wow, Thats sad, Post to the VMOA board and slam Gary and this forum, for what a $20.00 tee-Shirt. What the fuck is the matter with that guy. First it was Gay Porn emails, now this. Tom, sell your bike, leave these boards, never come back. To slam Gary on the VMOA Board was just wrong and uncalled for. You suck, you probably suck at life.

Chris
A very proud member of the VMF

I am happy to report that Tom's posting to the VMOA forum has been deleted.......... may his keyboard rest in peace.:gun shoot::2gunsfiring_v1::th_biggun::BoomSmilie_anim::rip:

On a lighter note..For some reason Busters post reminded me of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-fLW-QNy4I

I got my t-shirt, fast and no problems what so ever and even had it hand delivered from the man himself ! :biglaugh:

I think somebody at the post office maybe knows who he is - from when he picks up his packages. If he has pisses them off in the past , then I bet you they got his t-shirt and laughing their asses off at him - payback is a bitch !

Too bad it hurts more than one person. It effects the sender too. Don't worry about it Buster, the rest of us have recieved our shirts, and there good quality and damm cool too. I have had many comments from people who don't have a clue what the VMF is telling me that they really like them.....

I guess Tom is SOL now.....

When this one is worn out, I'll be ordering another one or two or three .....

:tantrum:I also ordered a shirt last month & it took a couple extra days to get all the way down here to FL. WAAAAAAAA GARY DOESN'T LOVE ME ! WAAAAAAA...