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another forum i frequent uses HOOLIGAN and BADASSHOOLIGAN as names when yu get to a certain post countunk: *nudge*
Forum Supporters can put in any name they want! unk: *nudge* :biglaugh:
another forum i frequent uses HOOLIGAN and BADASSHOOLIGAN as names when yu get to a certain post countunk: *nudge*
Yep, Dale recommends 155 mains..... IN TEXAS AT SEA LEVEL. But hey who am I to speak out. Not that I have ANY experience at jetting carbs.... oh wait I got more experience changing your jets than anyone has a right to. Get stuffed!!!! Who are you to give me crap about the race. You won't even show up for goodness sakes. Too expensive if you break your bike:rofl_200: Don't you worry bout me being VMOA VP, last I checked you bash the VMOA more than anyone I know so your opinion matters about squat to me.
155's are too rich. Friend had 4-2 Holeshots and his worked best with 147.5 Mikunis at 800-1000 feet above sea level.
It is common knowledge Walker bought Hindles and re-badged them as Holeshot before he started building his own setups. Nothing wrong with it as Furbur does the same thing with HMF and his 2D9S systems.
Rode about 210 miles yesterday with mostly 80 - 85 mph highway driving with about 45 miles of backroads. Got on it a few times but not much. Averaged 36+ mpg with the venture rear end and stock carbs. Really expected more with my setup. Do have to use the 10% ethanol gas though, which supposedly reduces mileage by 5 to 10%. Also was about 98 degrees which may affect mileage also.
Hi,
My bike revs 5000 rpm at 70 mph with no venture diff. Would your Max be in the 4500 rpm range with the Venture swap? I was looking at this mod to improve my gas mileage.
Thanks,
Blaine
Forum Supporters can put in any name they want! unk: *nudge* :biglaugh:
No disrepspect to your jetting prowess, Jim but Dale recommended 155 to me when I asked him. Are you saying you know more about this subject than Dale?
I did not give you crap about the race, Jim. I made a joke about you finishing second to a mostly stock 1985 because you tend to talk large about your 1428 EFI Max. When folks talk large and shit happens it creates a situation for comedic responses! And you do make a fair number of excuses (e.g. EFI tweaking) which are humorous to read about and therefore comment upon.
"Expensive" is a relative term, Jim. When you and the boys were drag racing two Max-ers broke clutches. It cost one member over 600 dollars to replace this item and have it installed. I commented that this was an expensive way for these folks to make four 11-second passes down a racetrack. The week after your track day my son and I had a 2-day, 2-up road trip through upstate New York. Beautiful scenery, great people, and excellent food. This trip cost me almost as much as the clutch install in terms of food, lodging, gas, travel insurance, and souvenirs but it really was "priceless". I don't mind spending money on my bike but you and I have WAY different priorities when it comes to spending time and money.
On a serious note, Jim, you really ought to be careful about accusing a businessman like Dale Walker as someone who "rips off" other products. You are an influential member of the VMOA and Dale supplies products to many of its members. Dale may not take kindly to your comments and hold you and/or the VMOA accountable for any false accusations. Yes, I do tend to "bash" the VMOA based on my experiences when I was a member; I do not accuse them of criminal activities (like stealing patents) like you're saying about Dale's Holeshot exhaust system.
Cheers!
Blaine
I apologise, Jim, for my misinterpretation of your use of the term "rip offs" on this forum. No worries, I figured you might have misunderstood so I had to make sure there was no issue:biglaugh:
Don't you see some comedic irony in that you lost in a drag to a mostly stock VMax? It isn't personal. It's almost like a stock F150 outperforming Bigfoot at the monster truck rally. You just don't expect it to happen. Trust me I saw the irony, but if you had seen me at drag day you would understand. I was uber frustrated given the time and yes the money spent on my bike not yielding results. After talking to Buster and with a couple of minor tweaks my bike improved immensely, hence the loss to the 85, I picked up 15 mph and "broke out". Head to head I beat him, but even then I still wasn't getting the best out of the bike.
Glad you are happy with your 100 miles/tank and that you're tuning mods are yielding positive results. Hope your bike works well for you now and in the future. Yep, am happier with that mileage. Figure I have 20% more displacement, so to extrapolate that out I technically should use ~20% more fuel due to the major increase in air volume per revolution. Still have a wicked stumble at ~7k rpm, but will be working on tuning that out shortly:eusa_dance:
I give you credit for your suggestion, Jim, about the 147.5's and I apologise for shutting you down in this regard. When Mark followed up your input he used a scenario (VMax/Holeshots) that was almost identical to my bike's set-up; it gave me an apples to apples incentive to try this configuration. My only issue here is that I have told you too many times to count what jets would work great in your bike. The differences between the HMF, UFO, Holeshot, and Mark's exhausts when it comes to jetting are miniscule at best. I based my experience off of jetting my own, when I had the HMF, and a couple of others with similar exhausts that perform well. If you were running a Kerker I would think that the 147.5's would work, but you might even go to 145's as the Kerker really flows well and has high exhaust gas velocities due to scavenging better than a 4-2, with the possible exception of the Mark's which has the crossover pipe.
"small words" "get stuffed" that's not called for, Jim. I hope it's just an attempt to get me riled up or something! Nah, that was just to make sure I made my point without the need for guessing what I meant. Hate confusion as it breeds issues, see posts in this thread for examples. The "get stuffed" well that was to rile you up:biglaugh:
Blaine
Good replies, Jim, and interesting choice of colour for your text! Pretty sure my chances to poke fun are numbered when it comes to your bike's performance.
I am trying to maximize my gas mileage. Your advice to move down a size or two in jets may help me do just that. I will let you know and email Walker with any improvements I may find and give credit where it's due.
IMO, drag racing causes premature wear-and-tear on a Max with stock mechanicals. My cousin drag races a ZX12 and he admits that its not a cheap hobby and it is a good way to wear out a good bike faster.
I admit that I'm intrigued by the thought of legally breaking any speed limit but at the end of the day I would probably find out that my bike is within 1-2 seconds of every other mostly stock Max. I know there's the social aspect of track day but I can get this on the open road. In your case, I see the incentive to drag race: yours is a unique beast and it probably has the potential run with or maybe even outperform a gen-2.
My kids love riding 2-up with the old man and I see this as a more satisfying way of spending my money and wearing out my bike. I just don't want to be worrying about how far it is to the next gas station! If I decide to sell/replace my Max , "never raced" may be a good ad pitch.
Blaine
Hi,
My bike revs 5000 rpm at 70 mph with no venture diff. Would your Max be in the 4500 rpm range with the Venture swap? I was looking at this mod to improve my gas mileage.
Don't you see some comedic irony in that you lost in a drag to a mostly stock VMax? It isn't personal. It's almost like a stock F150 outperforming Bigfoot at the monster truck rally. You just don't expect it to happen.
Blaine
It wasn't a straight head to head drag race, if it was, Jim won. This is bracket racing, where rider AND bike consistency is key. Jim never dialed in a good map for his EFI until his race with Brad and broke out by over 1 second! Brad and his bike was consistent on all the runs and this is what wins bracket racing. You don't need a fast vehicle to win bracket racing, you need consistency. Actually if I remember right, Brad also broke out on his race with Jim but by .1 second.
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