U. F. O.

Dont Buy From UFO. This is why.
http://www.vmaxforum.net/showthread.php?t=1613

http://www.vmaxforum.net/showthread.php?t=14988



if anyone has more threads to make/post please pm me and ill edit this top post to add the thread.

I will add that the first link is to my post. I think most here know I'm not a liar...

That story is 100% accurate and was posted just after the event happened.

Chris

Well, Chris. It seems you ARE the LIAR. Here are ALL the emails between you and Jon at UFO. This man did EVERYTHING a vendor could do including a new wheel which of course was perfect enough to re-sell with no recourse and also offered you another $100.00 credit. What is your problem ? See the REAL or should I say WHEEL story below. NOT the world according to Chris.

Start reading the emails from the bottom up.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Cornell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:55 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: FW: Wobbly wheel
　
　
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Smith [mailto:h.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:13 AM
To: ufo_performance
Subject: Wobbly wheel
Hi Jon,
Well I'm glad you replied to my message in the way you did. I wanted to
make sure you understood where I stood on this whole ordeal. I
appreciate your offer of a 100 dollar discount but I do not require or
need compensation for this. I only ask that if I have a problem again
that you are willing to help me in the future. I know this has been a
thorn in your side, because to be honest, it has been a huge thorn in
mine. I have only put roughly 100 miles on the Max this year to date...
I hope to really rack them up next week though! I look forward to
receiving the wheel but have to say I am not looking forward to cramming
it into the stock swing arm... I have had the diff off of a Vmax before
and played hell getting it back on. I have been talking to some other
Maxer's and they have given me great tips that I think will facilitate
the installation of it.
Cheers,
Christopher Smith
　
-----Original Message-----
From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:58 PM
To: Christopher Smith
Subject: Re: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
Thank you, Chris. I just don't know how much experience you have had
with vendors, but I have been in this industry for over 30 years and it
still holds true that I rarely see any compensation for mistakes I did
not create.
This is the very reason I have brought more and more of my manufacturing
in house. You would think a wheel manufacturer would check the trueness
of a blank before they put the labor into the pattern. I would ,,, but
guess they don't . Anyway , hope I have held up my end for you. I will
ALWAYS be here for you. I have a financial loss on this transaction but
keep notes. You have done nothing wrong here.......merely purchased a
wheel. Thanks again for your support. You have a credit of $100.00 with
my company on any future purchase , which I will personally honor, all I
ask in return is a kind word when my company name comes up. Thanks
again, Christopher. Jon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Smith" <CSm>
To: "ufo_performance" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
　
Made it happen for me Jon? Come on. I have spent 1600 dollars with you
and when someone spends this kind of money they expect it to be perfect.
I know you did your best but you have to understand that you told me it
was shipping on Tuesday and it didn't. I do not want and am not trying
to burn any bridges here but you need to understand that I hold people
to their word unless they email or call me and tell me differently.
Lets just say that I have bitten my tongue several times over this
entire transaction from day 1.
It took 2 months the first time. This kind of stuff is part of doing
business and I run into it all the time in my business and we loose
thousands of dollars a year for mistakes our vendors make. 2 days gives
me time to fit it but not a lot of time for a shake down before taking
it across the country...
I hold no animosity towards you or your company and I hope you feel the
same towards me.
Thanks for your hard work,
Christopher Smith
　
-----Original Message-----
From: "ufo_performance" <[email protected]>
To: "Christopher Smith" <CSh.com>
Sent: 6/14/07 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
Chris unless you live in Iraq it will be there on time . Did you read
the
tracking ? It said Monday end of day. Chris I have personally spent over
$375.00 to make this happen for you. My manufacturer says thats the way
it
goes. They replace it and consider everything is even. I have lost money
on
the deal to keep you happy, don't know who else would do that for you.
I'm
going to bit my tongue at this point. You have have two days to install
the
wheel ........you should jusssssssssssst make it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Smith" <CSm>
To: "ufo_performance" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
　
It just shipped today?
This is going to be a big issue if I don't receive before the 19th. I
am
leaving early am on Wed. The 20th.
Cheers,
Christopher
-----Original Message-----
From: "ufo_performance" <[email protected]>
To: "Christopher Smith" <Com>
Sent: 6/14/07 2:18 PM
Subject: Fw: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
Chris, here is your tracking. Sorry for the delay. I replaced the
bearings
as well. Jon.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #0619
　
>
> A carrier shipping label has been generated for the shipment to
> chris smith and is at The UPS Store #0619 awaiting carrier pickup.
>
> It will be picked up from The UPS Store #0619 by UPS on Thursday, June
14,
> 2007.
>
> ===========================================
> SHIPMENT INFORMATION
> ===========================================
> SENDER
> ufo performance
> --
> (Sender's street address omitted intentionally from this email)
> US, OH 44149
>
> RECIPIENT
> chris smith
> --
> (Recipient's street address omitted intentionally from this email)
>
>
> SHIPPED THROUGH
> The UPS Store #0619
> (440) 885-3200
>
> MESSAGE FROM SENDER
> --
>
> CARRIER & SERVICE
> UPS Ground
>
> TRACKING & REFERENCE
> Carrier Trk: 1Z
> Shipment ID: MM4R23AXPK4NF
> Order / Item #: 061407ks
> Reference #: 20085297
>
> SHIP DATE
> Thursday, June 14, 2007
>
> EXPECTED DELIVERY DATE
> Monday, June 18, 2007 End of Day
>
> ===========================================
> TRACKING INFORMATION
> ===========================================
> To get complete tracking information, click the following link:
>
> http://iship.com/track/trk.asp?t=MM4R23AXPK4NF
>
>
> NOTE: Tracking information may not be available until several hours
> after the carrier picks up the packages. Carriers normally pick up
> in the late afternoon.
>
> ===========================================
> QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SHIPMENT?
> ===========================================
> If you have questions regarding this shipment, contact the facility
listed
> in the SHIPPED THROUGH section above.
>
> ===========================================
> DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS E-MAIL
> ===========================================
> Questions or Comments: mailto:[email protected]
> Technical Support: mailto:[email protected]
>
>
> ********************************************
> On-Line manifesting and tracking technologies powered by iShip(tm).
> Shipping Insight.(tm)
>
>
>
> Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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I see the wheel made it to your place today… Hope it made it in one piece…

Let me know what E.T.A. is on the new one.

Cheers,
Christopher Smith

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From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:24 AM
To: Christopher Smith
Subject: Re: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX


What is the Thunder date? You need to get the wheel back to us asap because I need to document the problem and let American Wheel who produces the blanks for us that there is a problem so we can get a replacement, then we have to coat it and stripe it for you. I stand behind my products and will correct any manufacturing related issue. Thanks, Jon.

----- Original Message -----

From: 'ufo_performance'

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:04 PM

Subject: RE: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX



Hi Jon,

I sent you an e-mail from my phone and just wanted to make sure you got it. It is pretty apparent that there is a pretty good truing issue with this wheel.

I’d like to have it all sorted well before Thunder.

Let me know.

563-340-7138

Cheers,
Christopher Smith

​

From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:30 AM
To: Christopher Smith
Subject: Re: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX


Let me know what ever is most convenient for you is fine with me. Jon.

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher Smith

To: 'ufo_performance'

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:09 AM

Subject: RE: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX



I’m not liking the ship it back part of this deal… I really want to have it around for Thunder and a couple other rides…

I will check it out and let you know though…

Cheers,
Christopher Smith

​

From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:24 AM
To: Christopher Smith
Subject: Re: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX


Chris, check the run out. If it is bad you will need to ship it back we will have the wheel blank provider look at it and make things right. Thanks , Jon.

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher Smith

To: 'ufo_performance'

Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:00 PM

Subject: RE: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX



Oh and my phone is 563-340-7138



Cheers,
Christopher Smith

​

From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:05 PM
To: Christopher Smith
Subject: Re: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX


Chris, leave me a # to reach you at. We can go over the possibilities. You may have forgot to put the cylindrical spacer into the needle bearing on the left side. Jon.

----- Original Message -----

From: 'ufo_performance'

Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:00 PM

Subject: RE: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX





Thanks! You have my permission to use the pics as long as you don’t super impose naked men onto them… LOL

Also… I have had some people following me lately and they say that they can see a pronounced wiggle in the wheel as if it isn’t trued up… Have you had this issue? They say it’s VERY pronounced… I find it to be true as it seems that the rotor pushes my pistons in on the rear brake causing the pedal to go to the bottom when trying to use the rear brake. Everything is torqued to spec’s.

Let me know.

Cheers,
Ch

​

From: ufo_performance [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 9:05 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX


Chris, you did a beautiful styling job on your bike. Do I have your permission to use it on my wheel page on the website ? Thanks again for your purchases, Jon.

----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher Smith

To: [email protected]

Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:50 PM

Subject: Pics of 17" wheel on my VMAX



Hi Jon,

I told you I would send you some pics of the wheel mounted up to the bike. So far I am VERY happy with the complete package. As you can see the bike is no longer a stock 2006 and is EXACTLY what I hoped it would be… Thanks for your help.

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Damn! Those WikiLeaks fuckers are everywhere!

allthrottleFZ1 said:

Well, Chris. It seems you ARE the LIAR. Here are ALL the emails between you and Jon at UFO. This man did EVERYTHING a vendor could do including a new wheel which of course was perfect enough to re-sell with no recourse and also offered you another $100.00 credit. What is your problem ? Your boyfriend leave you for a guy with long hair ? See the REAL or should I say WHEEL story below. NOT the world according to Chrissy.

Start reading the emails from the bottom up.

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Hahaha... Another troll... Read what you want into it... I know what happened. What you don't have there is our voice conversations and the FACT that the bead wouldn't seat on the wheel because when he took it off, it tweaked the bead JUST enough so it wouldn't set. When I called him on it, (yes I called) he told me it was my issue now and that he was done with me. So what did I get? I got a bent wheel in the size I wanted and then a 6.25" wheel that honestly is too big for a 180 tire. Why? Because he told me that didn't make the 5.5" anymore... WTF? YES THEY DO! TO THIS DAY THEY DO! So call me what you want... I could give two *****! My past 4 years on this forum can point to the fact that I AM an upstanding member of civilization. People I have met here and dealt with here can attest to that.

I know you're in bed with the guy (hell you may be Jon) and that's fine. The offer of 100 bucks credit to me is something I DO NOT remember and honestly is beside the point. All I want is a 100% guarantee with NO questions asked. I got/get that elsewhere.

Thanks for posting those emails though. That's something I didn't keep. I'm not 100% sure those are 100% untampered with though. I also believe an email may be missing too.

Now did he/you record the phone calls by chance? :eusa_dance:

Also, I see no one else on here having issues with me, but MAN do I hear the stories about YOU/JON... Hmm... Weird...

Chris

sounds like it will Jon Cornel's bday until the end of the month. lol

Well if I posted all of that personal info on here I would be banned for 10 years.

WTF

Nobody said:

Well if I posted all of that personal info on here I would be banned for 10 years.

WTF

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Well said...

I have ONLY removed the links to my emails.

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

Unidentified ******* Object approaching!

Nobody said:

Well if I posted all of that personal info on here I would be banned for 10 years.

WTF

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I don't mind the rebuttal from Jon or Jon's representative, however I had to edit out his insults so that is what gets people in trouble and he has been warned.

Nobody said:

Well if I posted all of that personal info on here I would be banned for 10 years.

WTF

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Chill Bob, nobody's picking on you!! unk: You're getting more sensitive than me!! :hihi:

Just had a good laugh when I saw the tags for that thread lol

This **** is getting to be like Days of our lives!!! WTF

It's just Jon stirring the pot...

#1 in customer service! lol


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dannymax said:

Chill Bob, nobody's picking on you!! unk: You're getting more sensitive than me!! :hihi:

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No. . . just using my big stick

:stir pot:

I have dealed with John once when i bought my max daddy 17 rear wheel. everything went according to our mails and with no delays. had no problem with John. infact he had no problem giving me advices when i send mails to ufo.

VMAX1260 said:

I have dealed with John once when i bought my max daddy 17 rear wheel. everything went according to our mails and with no delays. had no problem with John. infact he had no problem giving me advices when i send mails to ufo.

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I've said this a ton. It's not something that happens every day, but when you have an issue with him, he's a PITA to get it resolved.

He's got his buddy's that he pampers but everyone else is left out to dry.

Chris

4gasem said:

I've said this a ton. It's not something that happens every day, but when you have an issue with him, he's a PITA to get it resolved.

He's got his buddy's that he pampers but everyone else is left out to dry.

Chris

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Chris, that's unfortunate about your deal with Jon. But I had a completely different experience with him.

I received a star-fighter seat which didn't fit tight to the tank cover a few weeks back. I was not happy.. And wondering what would transpire after reading your negative review. I sent Jon pics of the fitment issue and he told me to send it back, no problem. Less than one week later I received the seat back and it fits like a glove.:clapping:

I "had a issue with him" and it was not a PITA to resolve. It was easy.. And, I'm not a buddy of his. Never met him. But at this point Id like to..

Lucky you! He must be on his meds. For the record. I'm not alone.


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He probably didn't know you were on VMF, since he seems to have a deep hatred for this site and everyone who uses it. To be perfectly honest, that's the first and only positive story I've ever heard relating to UFO. You got lucky.