ouchez
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Reading the V-Rod forum on VMAX topics yesterday and they really can be a nasty bunch, and at times very out of touch with reality.
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Back in the '80's H-D ran a promotion where if you brought in your old leather jacket they would knock-off $100 from one they sold. I took an old ratty
jacket in & selected one in-stock, went to the cash register, and the sales clerk said, "sorry, the $100-off is only good on branded H-D jackets!" & of course, they were all overpriced $100+! Nowhere in the ads they put in the local publications did it say, "only good on H-D branded jackets." I figured if I really wanted to push the point, I could have gone to the local consumer advocate office, and made them honor the deal, but I just left the dealership, no new leather.
jacket in & selected one in-stock, went to the cash register, and the sales clerk said, "sorry, the $100-off is only good on branded H-D jackets!" & of course, they were all overpriced $100+! Nowhere in the ads they put in the local publications did it say, "only good on H-D branded jackets." I figured if I really wanted to push the point, I could have gone to the local consumer advocate office, and made them honor the deal, but I just left the dealership, no new leather.
Sonoran6
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I get the thumbs up from Harley riders all the time on the road, they ride by and stare and give me a thumbs up. Had 1 yesterday at a gas station ask me 'what the hell is that? It looks so badass, is it fast?' He was on a red chopper all chromed out, he asked how much it was and what year. Was shocked on both answers. He then told me how he never rides and spent over $15k on it. I said wow, it looks like everyone else's, and he said at least its American! He took off and let it rip down the road. I caught him on the highway and he down shifted and tried real hard to leave me, i of course left him with violent speed and he passed me later still giving me the thumbs up. I don't care what people ride, except those faggy can-am trikes, I flip those guys off if they wave LOL
DakRatFink
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Last year when I was quite a bit heavier than I am now I was riding 2 up with my wife (who is not a small girl either. ) Some tool on one of those overpriced "custom" S&S powered choppers that looks like everyone else's custom was revving at stoplights, trying to impress cages, weaving in and out of traffic etc. I caught up with him as traffic opened up approaching the North Hill out of town. As the wife and I pulled up in the next lane, he looked over toward our lane and attempted to show off the horsepower he thought his boutique bar hopper had. A quick downshift and second or two on the throttle later he had a great view of our tail light.
I didn't get a chance to collect a thumbs up like Sonoran did, however.
So I had to look for myself, here's the most-entertaining one I found:
I had a '91 in '93....bought it from an impound after it did not sell in the auction because they thought the charging system was shot. It would run with jumper cables on and die when you pulled them off. It had a dead cell in the battery and they will not run without a good (and charged) battery. It had 11,000 miles on it and I paid $1,500 for it...luckily I lived long enough to sell it for $3,900 which was too cheap. I did not know alot about them but was told something about some updraft carb system that had a lot to do with that amazing power band. I was also told that in the first two years of production, the death rate was so high that they tuned them down...I never did imagine riding anything with that much acceleration. When I first rode it...in second or third gear at about 5,000 rpm, I opened it up...went through the gears and actually had to stop to let my heart slow down. I still remember (like it was yesterday) standing there by the road looking at it thinking shiat that mutha is awesome scary. Luckily my girlfriend at the time was not into riding so after a couple months I ran a add in the paper...the first guy that called on it said he was coming from OK city, it would take him 8 hrs. to get here would I hold it for him, never even tried to talk down the asking price....Watching him drive off with it on the trailer, I knew I sold it too cheap.
My Harley is dangerous enough...I don't need a rocket launcher.
http://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-topic/358752-yamaha-vmax-4.html
I think his last comment would be a good tag line for those of us who also own H-D's, as a 'tongue-in-cheek' comment on the more-fun of the two...:rofl_200:
It's amazing the misinformation combined w/a grain of truth the guy imparted. I guess many of the H-D bikers are not too-savvy around things mechanical. :ummm:
I had a '91 in '93....bought it from an impound after it did not sell in the auction because they thought the charging system was shot. It would run with jumper cables on and die when you pulled them off. It had a dead cell in the battery and they will not run without a good (and charged) battery. It had 11,000 miles on it and I paid $1,500 for it...luckily I lived long enough to sell it for $3,900 which was too cheap. I did not know alot about them but was told something about some updraft carb system that had a lot to do with that amazing power band. I was also told that in the first two years of production, the death rate was so high that they tuned them down...I never did imagine riding anything with that much acceleration. When I first rode it...in second or third gear at about 5,000 rpm, I opened it up...went through the gears and actually had to stop to let my heart slow down. I still remember (like it was yesterday) standing there by the road looking at it thinking shiat that mutha is awesome scary. Luckily my girlfriend at the time was not into riding so after a couple months I ran a add in the paper...the first guy that called on it said he was coming from OK city, it would take him 8 hrs. to get here would I hold it for him, never even tried to talk down the asking price....Watching him drive off with it on the trailer, I knew I sold it too cheap.
My Harley is dangerous enough...I don't need a rocket launcher.
http://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-topic/358752-yamaha-vmax-4.html
I think his last comment would be a good tag line for those of us who also own H-D's, as a 'tongue-in-cheek' comment on the more-fun of the two...:rofl_200:
It's amazing the misinformation combined w/a grain of truth the guy imparted. I guess many of the H-D bikers are not too-savvy around things mechanical. :ummm:
careful. couple guys here ride them and they're good guys. what if it was that or no motorcycle for you? something to think about..
sdt354
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+1 Garrett, a very good friend, and a most helpful and supportive guy on here, we all know, rides a Spider. He is a Vmax Carb Guru too, that will help just about anybody. I don't think he deserves to be insulted.
I don't think it's the brand that's an issue. It's a certain percentage of DB's that happen to live in that culture.
I worked with an ******* that just about everyday said to me "how's your Jap POS" The funney part was, he rode a Honda most of his riding life and just bought the hog that made him one of the chosen few. I really miss him-NOT.
Steve-o
Damn I opened a can of worms.LOL Remember as I said in the first couple post this is just a certain group that pissed me off . I know not all of them are that way. I am not against owning one but they just dont fit in my riding style for the time being. I think it is funny though how a ton of people think there all american. Hell Shoie has been making the forks for as long as I remember & how about them mikuni & keihn carbs. I would be here all day naming the china & jap parts on the new models since its about 70 % of the bike.
Crash
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But if you buy a harley you look cool a trailer week rallies!
No thanks, rather ride than polish!
I would thrown the deuch bag out of my shop!
No thanks, rather ride than polish!
I would thrown the deuch bag out of my shop!
NHVmaxpower
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100% correct chains,sprockets when aplicable jap, forks Jap,brakes,pads,Jap,pistons,jugs,Jap,carbs as stated Jap,almsot 100 % sure steel sent to Japan & frames made in Japan assembled here I think? Yes the old knuckle heads,pan heads, some early evos 1983?? mostly american made. Yet they still swear ride buy american BUT many Hardley guys I know drive forein cars trucks .. Hmmmmmmm
Kyle look what you started lmao anyone whos been riding many years already knows about the Baditude that most of them guys have anyway . You just stated a fact lol
I ride with a group that is mostly in their 60's (I am 68) and have been since we all got out of the military in the late 60's. I have been riding since 1958.
Anyway, we all have been talking about what we will do when we can no longer ride a two wheeler for whatever reason. The Spyder along with the Ural or any sidecar bike and the Piaggo with the two front wheels and trikes have been discussed. The Spyder seems to give a better and safer riding experience than the others.
I have owned two Harleys and am a life HOG member but sold my last one in 1998. (A 1991 Sturgis I bought new). It was a fine bike that gave me no problems in the years I owned it. I sold it to the HD dealer in Austin, TX for $2400 more than I paid for it after 8 1/2 years of ownership. I have no problem with riders of any bike so long as they don't have an attitude. I find that attitude is not confined to HD riders. All types of bikes have their riders with attitudes.
I guess my point is, I am tired of bashing between riders and would like to see it stop in this forum...
Anyway, we all have been talking about what we will do when we can no longer ride a two wheeler for whatever reason. The Spyder along with the Ural or any sidecar bike and the Piaggo with the two front wheels and trikes have been discussed. The Spyder seems to give a better and safer riding experience than the others.
I have owned two Harleys and am a life HOG member but sold my last one in 1998. (A 1991 Sturgis I bought new). It was a fine bike that gave me no problems in the years I owned it. I sold it to the HD dealer in Austin, TX for $2400 more than I paid for it after 8 1/2 years of ownership. I have no problem with riders of any bike so long as they don't have an attitude. I find that attitude is not confined to HD riders. All types of bikes have their riders with attitudes.
I guess my point is, I am tired of bashing between riders and would like to see it stop in this forum...
Redbone
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My brother in law (Bob) was looking to get back into riding and since his friend had a Harley he thought he would look at the different models. Since he travels a lot he would stop in at different dealerships to see which one he liked. Once he arrived home after trying out several in a dealership (he looked at other makes as well, Star Stryker was his favorite). He ended up going to his hometown Harley dealer, started up a conversation with a salesman, told him he was interested in a bike and riding gear. The salesman took to the bike, he said this is the one I want to buy(right color/ options) and they looked at some riding gear then brought it all to the counter. Bob pulled out his check book and asked the what the total was but he couldn't believe he was going to pay cash. He started offering him financing options all the while Bob was insisting on paying cash, but still he still to badger him with financing options. Bob is not the most patient guy, so he looked at the salesman, called him a idiot and started to walk out. He was intercepted at the door by the manager asking why he was leaving and he said that "your salesman did not want to take my money for the bike and gear" and kept walking.
A couple days later he made a online deal with a Yamaha dealer hour away, paid the price and got a helmet thrown in for paying cash! He said it was a much better deal but is getting the "why didn't you buy a real bike" talk from some of the guys he runs into.
The Stryker is a nice enough bike but my max completely dusted it every time we pegged the throttle.:eusa_dance:
A couple days later he made a online deal with a Yamaha dealer hour away, paid the price and got a helmet thrown in for paying cash! He said it was a much better deal but is getting the "why didn't you buy a real bike" talk from some of the guys he runs into.
The Stryker is a nice enough bike but my max completely dusted it every time we pegged the throttle.:eusa_dance:
Sonoran6
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"That" isn't a motorcycle, and if they waved at me while I was riding, I would flip em off. Same with mopeds.
Crash
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I actually ride with a bunch of different types of bikes. Everything from scooters ( some that smoke crotch rockets) to harleys and everything in between. Plenty of times we will swap bikes at stops to try different types. I could find at least one thing i like about every bike i have ridden. Although some harley guys, as well as other brands, have attitudes, i know just as many that dont. But a little fun bantering between doesn't hurt. I personally just dont like the commercialization of the harleys. The company seems to have forgotten its roots. Just my worthless opinion.
Maxine
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I own a couple of HD's myself along with Kaw's, Yamaha's and Honda's.
I agree any group of riders can have their share of DB's, However Harley does seem to have the largest percentage of DB's per total number of riders.
I typically wont ride with a DB like that myself, and If there is one or more with a group I plan to ride with I usually show up on my "jap crap" jk
simply to stir the pot. I usually wear Vmax, Yamaha, kawasaki shirts while riding the HD's just in case one sneaks along anyway.
I try not to wave back at the dude with the Baditude look, HD underwear and that uber cool low low wave...I figure he's seen himself do it just right in the mirror practicing so many dang times that I'd never live up to his standard / expectations anyway.
My fellow motorcyclist's however will get a wave or a nod most of the time...nothing fancy mind you...four fingers raised from the grip
unk:Ride on fella's
I agree any group of riders can have their share of DB's, However Harley does seem to have the largest percentage of DB's per total number of riders.
I typically wont ride with a DB like that myself, and If there is one or more with a group I plan to ride with I usually show up on my "jap crap" jk
simply to stir the pot. I usually wear Vmax, Yamaha, kawasaki shirts while riding the HD's just in case one sneaks along anyway.I try not to wave back at the dude with the Baditude look, HD underwear and that uber cool low low wave...I figure he's seen himself do it just right in the mirror practicing so many dang times that I'd never live up to his standard / expectations anyway.
My fellow motorcyclist's however will get a wave or a nod most of the time...nothing fancy mind you...four fingers raised from the grip
unk:Ride on fella's
Rollie
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When I'm riding , and it's safe , I wave to anyone with a helmet on .
RaWarrior
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Those Spyder's would be a riot if they had about 50 more hp and a button to turn the traction control off.
Still, they're pretty fun on a curvy road at like 40-50mph, where you can keep it revved up in second or third. They can really haul around corners(would easily smoke cruisers), and the would have adequate power to break the rear tire loose....but if you grab a fist of throttle, the traction control immediately steps in and cuts power. I think drifting them would be a hoot.
Still, they're pretty fun on a curvy road at like 40-50mph, where you can keep it revved up in second or third. They can really haul around corners(would easily smoke cruisers), and the would have adequate power to break the rear tire loose....but if you grab a fist of throttle, the traction control immediately steps in and cuts power. I think drifting them would be a hoot.
I know a guy who has a bike workshop, and he deals with one of the patch wearing gangs here.
He lives in that world, so his shop is Harley only. One day he let a mutual friend of ours work on his 1100 Katana in his shop. Big bearded bloke walks up and says to my friend "What the f* is this doing in here? What the f* is it?"
Before my friend who was working on the bike could answer, the shop owner said, without even a moments hesitation, "It's the new Harley."
Big bearded bloke just shut up. :rofl_200:
For the record, the guy who owns the shop has one of very few Harleys I actively want, and he takes the time to compliment the Max when he sees me. The other type of Harley owner is sometimes still coming down from a bad trip they took in the 70's.... :rofl_200:
He lives in that world, so his shop is Harley only. One day he let a mutual friend of ours work on his 1100 Katana in his shop. Big bearded bloke walks up and says to my friend "What the f* is this doing in here? What the f* is it?"
Before my friend who was working on the bike could answer, the shop owner said, without even a moments hesitation, "It's the new Harley."
Big bearded bloke just shut up. :rofl_200:
For the record, the guy who owns the shop has one of very few Harleys I actively want, and he takes the time to compliment the Max when he sees me. The other type of Harley owner is sometimes still coming down from a bad trip they took in the 70's.... :rofl_200:
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