Caution...political thought

[old timer]

Why does the television and print media refuse to cover or even mention Ron Paul ? Maybe it has something to do with making sense and actually having a plan that doesn't make tons of money for the wrong element ( re: politicans/wall street/bankers ) ? :confused2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D58v4eiUuI

 

[MtnMax/Magniac]

Because the lamestream media is firmly ensconced in the far left liberal camp. (Notice I didn't say democrat.)

 

[old timer]

Probably a better example...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0jcNBzfwM

 

[drdrewdown]

i <3 Ron Paul. He's the only true human being running for president. i think all the rest are actually aliens

 

[j2dawson]

Because the mainstream media has only one goal, get Obama elected - again!

 

[Rollie]

Because the mainstream media has only one goal, get Obama elected - again!

+1 , definately agree , but why ? They and their families have to live under the same roof we do.

 

[j2dawson]

+1 , definately agree , but why ? They and their families have to live under the same roof we do.

I don't think anyone can figure that out.

 

[old timer]

Follow the money...

 

[Rollie]

Follow the money...

I'll buy that ! :clapping:

 

[forestdaledave]

The media does cover Ron Paul. I watched an interview with him yesterday. He doesn't attract the attention of a Bachmann or Perry, something to do with the Theater of the Absurd. He makes some sense as they all do but he falls far short with many ideas. Even though he is running as a Republican he is not. He is a self-avowed libertarian. We already have one country in the world that is Libertarian and that is Somalia. Which is why he has a slim or no chance of getting the Republican nomination. Because of the electoral college there is no chance of someone outside of the two major parties actually getting elected.
Many people haven't figured out that if Obama fails so does the Nation. The Republicans have been successful in making Obama and the economic recovery fail. They have impeded every effort and added nothing positive. Since they have gained control of the House what have they done that is positive? What programs for jobs have they put forth? By holding up money for public works and infrastructure projects they have actually made the economy worse. Politics suck.
David Tavares

 

[Rollie]

The media does cover Ron Paul. I watched an interview with him yesterday. He doesn't attract the attention of a Bachmann or Perry, something to do with the Theater of the Absurd. He makes some sense as they all do but he falls far short with many ideas. Even though he is running as a Republican he is not. He is a self-avowed libertarian. We already have one country in the world that is Libertarian and that is Somalia. Which is why he has a slim or no chance of getting the Republican nomination. Because of the electoral college there is no chance of someone outside of the two major parties actually getting elected.
Many people haven't figured out that if Obama fails so does the Nation. The Republicans have been successful in making Obama and the economic recovery fail. They have impeded every effort and added nothing positive. Since they have gained control of the House what have they done that is positive? What programs for jobs have they put forth? By holding up money for public works and infrastructure projects they have actually made the economy worse. Politics suck.

David Tavares

If an incompetent ***** is jumping off a cliff , I will not hold his hand , nod in agreement and jump with him .

 

[spursmech]

The media does cover Ron Paul. I watched an interview with him yesterday. He doesn't attract the attention of a Bachmann or Perry, something to do with the Theater of the Absurd. He makes some sense as they all do but he falls far short with many ideas. Even though he is running as a Republican he is not. He is a self-avowed libertarian. We already have one country in the world that is Libertarian and that is Somalia. Which is why he has a slim or no chance of getting the Republican nomination. Because of the electoral college there is no chance of someone outside of the two major parties actually getting elected.
Many people haven't figured out that if Obama fails so does the Nation. The Republicans have been successful in making Obama and the economic recovery fail. They have impeded every effort and added nothing positive. Since they have gained control of the House what have they done that is positive? What programs for jobs have they put forth? By holding up money for public works and infrastructure projects they have actually made the economy worse. Politics suck.
David Tavares

unk:You tell them Brother. Very well stated. These guys miss Reagon and Bush and those two raised the debt ceiling 19 times between them. Short memory I guess works for some. Good Luck, Spurs

 

[alorio1]

BO worst President EVER !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7wGiJsN_8

 

[Rusty McNeil]

If Obama fails the nation fails?????????????

"What programs or jobs have the Republicans put forth???"

Dude, serioulsly, put down the cool-aid...

"Programs" and "Gov't Job pipe dreams" offered by politicians of every stripe is what has 'effed this country up in the first place. and is the LAST thing we need more of......Congress needs to loosen up their strangle hold on the ecomony and let it run on it's own steam....And QUIT trying to help so much, just leave us the **** alone....Everything that Congress does usually boils down to shifting Tax dollars from the payers to the non payers...Just what our country was built on right?

Fear of "what's next??" from Washington is the MAIN reason even businesses that ARE doing well right now won't hire, they are scared to death of what the next financial burden is going to be that gets placed on them by Washington trying to "do something"


An economic recovery based on more income re-distribution in whatever form it takes is not a recovery, it's just another step towards socialism....

We already have 46% of Americans that file taxes carrying ZERO tax liabilty, and many making a profit from the system through EIC etc. and at the same time bitching that the incredibly progressive tax system we are burdened with isn't fair because the rich, who pay a higher percentage of taxes in relation to thier share of income (That's what makes it progressive, as does the lower end earners paying less as a percentage of their share of income) are not paying thier fair share....The "Rich not paying their share" is a crock of **** any 7th grader can dis-prove simply by cruising the very dry but very informative IRS website that breaks down who's paying what and what their share of income is

The gov't cannot create sustainable jobs, period................., Gov't jobs ARE of course needed to support out infrastructure, but for the most part if jobs are not created in the pursuit of profit then they are "CONSUMERS OF" instead of "CONTRIBUTORS TO" The economic health of the nation.......it's pretty freaking simple economics that politicians can't speak of since they are in the business of making promises with other peoples money..........

I'm sick of the whole 'effin process, and don't trust any of them......but I choose to distrust the ones who reek of unadulterated socialism even less...Until this country comes to the realization that you can't do everything for the poor and dowtrodden that your heart desires with no regards to the financial consequences then we are screwed.......We haven't built a safety net in this country, we built a ******* hammock on the backs of the tax payers......

TANSTAAFL

Ron Paul is an unelectable fringe candidate, but only because the media made him that way as they do any candidate not fully mainstream....

But what comes out of his mouth sounds honest and makes a lot of sense....

I can't wait for the day when and if Rick Perry actually has a face to to face debate over ANY issue with Ron Paul, Ron Paul is smart enough to pick Perry to shreds, and if Perry has any sense at all he will avoid Paul till he's not in the picture any more

 

[devine plumbing]

Well put Rusty. If we can just get them to quit instituting policies in an attempt to take from one smaller group of people to give it to a much larger group of people in the name of helping. A large percentage of these people are too lazy to work and will end up spending the money to buy drugs, alcohol, etc. I saw a lady last month purchase about $400 worth of soda on her government assistance card only to take the soda cans to the parking lot, pour them out, and return the bottles for a cash return of about 30 percent. One study showed that if all of the money in this country was divided equally amongst the citizens, within a 10 year period 95 percent of the people would be in the exact same situation as they were before the division.

 

[hubeerjw]

unk:You tell them Brother. Very well stated. These guys miss Reagon and Bush and those two raised the debt ceiling 19 times between them. Short memory I guess works for some. Good Luck, Spurs

Obama has spent more than all the other presidents combined... http://www.cnsnews.com/node/72404

And I'm not sure why you would want to even compare Reagan to the current slum-loard of the white house, I don't think you will have too many people on your side. Obama has failed, not much more needs to be said. Everyone that got cought up in his "hopes and dreams" are easily swayed and need to come back to reality. The one thing that really stood out in one of his speaches was when he was talking about EVERYONE having to work hard. Printing more $$, and writing checks the government can't fund is NOT the way I "work hard". He is giving more **** away than anyone has before him. He is trying to take a short cut here.... how many times have short-cuts worked well in the long run for any of you?


Jeff

 

[Rusty McNeil]

The current administration is using our tax dollars to throw a four year long ticker tape parade............

There will always be people with wants and needs in this country, they want what you have and think you need to give it to them......

Personally I think no man has a god given right to the spoils of anothers hard work....If free will compels a man to give/donate his earnings to the needy then fine, but not at the point of an IRS gun when the motives of the one giving away one mans earnings to another are corrupt.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

unk:You tell them Brother. Very well stated. These guys miss Reagon and Bush and those two raised the debt ceiling 19 times between them. Short memory I guess works for some. Good Luck, Spurs

UUhhh,
I hate to tell you this but CONGRESS creates the budget, not the president. At that point in time it was DEMOCRATS that had complete control of congress that forced the budget increases. Reagan only agreed to that along with a package of debt reduction that was to occur in the years after. He openly stated that it was one of his biggest mistakes, as there was never any way the democrats would live up to those promises. They didn't.
This is exactly what happened with Obama. There was no reduction in spending AT ALL. THE BUDGET, government spending, WAS INCREASED. Some elements blamed the Tea Party. What a classic load of crap bought by many. The supposed cuts and reductions in spending WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Hold onto your shorts, we are about to ride this train right into ground, and after all the smoke clears there will be a number of folks staggering around mumbling "wha happened???".
The amount that Reagan raised the debt ceiling looks like a fart in a hurricane compared to what is happening now.

At the end of it all look in the mirror. That's the guy that's gonna pay for the looting of our countries wealth and liberties. They signed your name to it.

 

[drdrewdown]

OLD but GOOD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxvxDJPr7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxG-S2QuDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqhiH-96lc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUXRSthM_hE

 

[Blurr]

It isn't working, that much is clear. The recovery, the plan, the what ever... Wether nations or households, you can't spend more then you make without being forced to severly restrict your spending at some point down the road. No one (in their right mind) argues this point. Nations do have the ability to print money but even a peon understands that isn't going to solve the problem. So long as the person with the checkbook pays no personal price for the checks they write we have no reason or right to believe we will se reasponsable fiscal behavior out of our elected officials. That is the root of it. In that republicans and democrats are cut from the same cloth.

I do believe that the deems have an easier time being free with the purse strings in that their mindset has them focused on the possible good that could come from their programs. Though if you really wanted that good you would think they would perform reviews to make sure the profane worked. I have serious issues with someone who think they should be given the power to 'make life better' for anyone else. That power gives one group control over anyone who accepts their 'help'.

Republicans seem to be more like some town crackhead full of remorse who comes in to the church once a month bawling her eyes out about how she knew better and from now on she'll do better but the need just got to be to much last weekend. Should I turn a blind eye because you at least have the moral compunction to be embarrassed by tour actions? How is that any different from the democrats, after all they both ment well.

We are in debt. We have to pay it or else. The republicans say cut taxes. In the past this did work, but I am not convinced that in a global economy that helps us, the American worker. When some multinational company gets a tax break they have no responsibility to hire another American worker or employ another American supplier; they get a break and we just hope they do the right thing. If the republicans really cared the would limit any such tax credits to companies that kept their dollars 'in house'. Dems on the other hand think the only choice is to raise taxes since cutting spending is off limits. Ok. I'll go among with that, if I can get some limitations. One, tax hike comes in the form of a sales tax that does not include food items. If it goes in your mouth and kills your hunger pangs it's off limits. Everything else is fair game. Two, NO NEW SOCIAL SPENDING! Three, balanced budget amendment, with teeth. If you don't balance it you go to jail for the night. If you don't get it tomorrow you go back to jail tomorrow night. Just like they do it in Texas. Four, get rid of the ability senators and congress persons to write a bill that exempts future legislators from being able to effect change to said law. Only law exempt from that would be social security and that only going forward so that ppl currently aged 21 can expect it. Any only younger has the time to plan their retirement.