Downshifting Issue

[BorgBiker]

So I've got about 400 miles and one week on my Max, and it is everything I thought it would be.

But I'm noticing that when I am downshifting into 2nd, it sometimes doesn't quite 'connect' and there's a bit of a subtle grind sound, then it goes into neutral. This doesn't happen every time, and it seems as though when I blip the throttle this doesn't happen as much. It started off very subtle, and I can't tell if I'm just not shifting firm enough, or if it's something more.


I have had zero problems upshifting, and I have been very gentle with my shifts as I become accustomed to the Max.

Any ideas as to how serious this is?

 

[tugla]

sounds like you better give sean morley a call, might be 2nd gear issues popping up on you. dont think shift segment causes that as ive had that issue and you just end up with a dead feeling shifter and no gears.

 

[rusty]

So I've got about 400 miles and one week on my Max, and it is everything I thought it would be.

But I'm noticing that when I am downshifting into 2nd, it sometimes doesn't quite 'connect' and there's a bit of a subtle grind sound, then it goes into neutral. This doesn't happen every time, and it seems as though when I blip the throttle this doesn't happen as much. It started off very subtle, and I can't tell if I'm just not shifting firm enough, or if it's something more.


I have had zero problems upshifting, and I have been very gentle with my shifts as I become accustomed to the Max.

Any ideas as to how serious this is?

Ive experienced this on my 02 as well. I never really thought it was a problem though.Just kinda got familiar with the tranny.:biglaugh:

 

[MaxMidnight]

Have you tried adjusting the position of the lever...or perhaps being slightly less gentle when downshifting ?(I mean using firm pressure rather than stamping on it!)

 

[tugla]

another easy thing is how old is the oil? maybe start with a fresh oil chg and others said adjust the linkage if out of spec

 

[one2dmax]

There are upshift dogs (the normal ones to wear out first) and downside dogs. Probably got some wear on them but it doesn't sound like anything I would worry about it yet.

Sean

 

[bazwell]

Sounds like it's not quite selecting. Try adjusting the selector linkage so you can give it a bit more down movement. (ie make the pedal sit a bit higher) Sometimes that makes it easier to get a full "clunk".
Everyones foots is different. ;-)

 

[gamorg02]

are you shifting with the speed too fast? sometimes if i shift too soon into second it doesn't like it if say i'm going 50 mph or something. (not sure if its 50, just an artbitrary number for now).

 

[COP RUNNER]

i WHEN I DOWN SHIFT EVERY BIKE I HAVE HAD MY ENTIRE LIFE , I ALWAYS " BLIP " THE THROTTLE A SPLIT SECOND BEFORE I PUSH THE LEVER DOWN AND IT GOES RIGHT IN !

 

[tugla]

i WHEN I DOWN SHIFT EVERY BIKE I HAVE HAD MY ENTIRE LIFE , I ALWAYS " BLIP " THE THROTTLE A SPLIT SECOND BEFORE I PUSH THE LEVER DOWN AND IT GOES RIGHT IN !

hey copy catter...........was just gonna say that

and ya i bet it goes right in :rofl_200::rofl_200: thats what she said

 

[BorgBiker]

Thanks guys, I feel a bit better. Nothing like the shock of a possible bad 2nd gear on a new purchase to put a little scare in ya!

I have been blipping my throttle with downshifts, not just because it helps shifting, but because it sounds so frickin' good! I drilled the stock mufflers and did the V-boost unplug trick, and now Max sounds awesome at idle, at take off, and when slowing down. The only time it doesn't sound good is when it's turned off. I try to make that as infrequent as possible!

 

[rusty]

Thanks guys, I feel a bit better. Nothing like the shock of a possible bad 2nd gear on a new purchase to put a little scare in ya!

I have been blipping my throttle with downshifts, not just because it helps shifting, but because it sounds so frickin' good! I drilled the stock mufflers and did the V-boost unplug trick, and now Max sounds awesome at idle, at take off, and when slowing down. The only time it doesn't sound good is when it's turned off. I try to make that as infrequent as possible!

Watch out with hard low gear deceleration.I know the pipes sound soooo good,but it ware's out the dogs in the lower gears.:rockon00:

 

[MaxMidnight]

I have been blipping my throttle with downshifts

That is something I would recommend to do as a matter of course especially if you are coming down the box from higher speeds.

 

[95spfldmax]

Thanks guys, I feel a bit better. Nothing like the shock of a possible bad 2nd gear on a new purchase to put a little scare in ya!

I have been blipping my throttle with downshifts, not just because it helps shifting, but because it sounds so frickin' good! I drilled the stock mufflers and did the V-boost unplug trick, and now Max sounds awesome at idle, at take off, and when slowing down. The only time it doesn't sound good is when it's turned off. I try to make that as infrequent as possible!

I hear that brotha!!

 

[sdt354]

I'd rather pay for a pair of HH brake pads than use the trans. to slow down too often. I seldom downshift hard for financial reasons.
Steve

 

[rusty]

I'd rather pay for a pair of HH brake pads than use the trans. to slow down too often. I seldom downshift hard for financial reasons.
Steve

You got that right Steve. Learned a good lesson with my last motor.I'm very easy on my new-er tranny.Very little downshifting.I Just use the breaks now:biglaugh: low gear deceleration is the Vmax "Achllies Heal"

 

[COP RUNNER]

hey copy catter...........was just gonna say that

and ya i bet it goes right in :rofl_200::rofl_200: thats what she said

i LIKE A " **** " ON " PROM NIGHT " ! . :th_love031: . :biglaugh: .:rofl_200:

 

[bazwell]

I'd rather pay for a pair of HH brake pads than use the trans. to slow down too often. I seldom downshift hard for financial reasons.
Steve

I think that it's only the when the gears are being slid in and out that causes the worn dogs, so if I downshift hard, I blip it to save on gearboxes!

I downshift early in my car with a blip to save brakes, for financial reasons.
I was racing my girlfriend (as I'm sure we all do...), and she commented afterwards "You hardly use your brakes coming into corners."
I pointed out that her car was crap and being driven by an *****, but I was thinking "Just saving on clutches and brakes dear, just saving on brakes and clutches." :rofl_200:

 

[tugla]

i LIKE A " **** " ON " PROM NIGHT " ! . :th_love031: . :biglaugh: .:rofl_200:

gigatty gigatty bahahahha