EFI and bad charging system ?

[satariel666]

What I know is when You convert Y device to DELTA device the current consumption will increase 3 times and then power will increase 3 times.
Voltage stays the same.

Like typical 3 phase AC motors.
We have 400V (in PL) at 3 phase network.
Im not sure what about USA but i think 230V is 3 phase there. Anyone will confirm?
Also please remember that terms could be diffrent in Russia.

Theoreticly all AC 3 pahse devices may work in Y or DELTA.
Not quite.
Small AC 3 phases motors(up to 1kW) are somethimes designed to work in Y at 400V but in DELTA they can work at up to 230V.
Due the wire size limitations.

3 things are determining the generator power.
Im talking about SOILD MAGNETS generators.

-The stator core cross-section(the size) will determine the power absolutly.
I've made some math, nothing precisley but it seems that venture stator can produce 600W power. We are close to that already.
IMHO 700W will be absolute maximum.

-The stator wire.
Stock venture stator runs with 1,15mm wire.
We can rewind the stator with 1,3-1,4m wire and reach the 700W.
But im not sure that 1,3mm wire will be fit-able to the core.
Need to check it out.


The magnets.
And heres the problem.
Im not even sure how to check the magnets power LOL

 

[шульц.]

roughly the same standards of .127 volts, 220 volts, 380 volts. difference - a 1.73-fold. older engines can be connected to the new network with a voltage of 1.73 times higher. . Engine power remain the same in this case. on new engines, which are released after 1975 the ability to connect to the network with a higher voltage is not provided because the voltage is no longer used 127 volts and needs in this voltage is net.v older engines display the terminal 6 wires (there is an opportunity to switching in a triangle or a star, there is a choice-net 220 or 380 volts) are now always displayed the three wires without the possibility of self-selection networks. but now is not necessary, because the networks with a voltage of 127 volts (or three-phase 220) are not. the difference in voltage is in a standard 1.73 times and this is due to the difference of stresses in the connecting triangle or a star. engine power, regardless of the wiring diagrams do not change.
but that's because things are with us and I'm not prepared to argue that I was right. I'm not an electrician and did not study that's what I remember of what we talked about electricity in college
on the generator to the maxim. yes, I too think that the generator at Maxim for the corresponding correct winding wire is quite able to give the calculated 700 Watt (about these indicators give cars and generators), but. question. how do we get them? with existing voltage regulators we will never get. because when the voltage in the winding of the generator, say, 14 volts, the relay voltage regulator simply connects our generator windings to ground (0) and carries a generator in the regime of short circuit. moreover, the greater the speed, the steeper the hump in our sine wave voltage to the phase generator, the faster the relay will connect the phase generator with a 0. the lower the efficiency of the generator. the greater the voltage and current (power) into a short circuit. and absolutely no benefit (charge). generator will not overheat solely because he works in an oil bath and oil cooled. you measure the current issued to the generator control relay. current on each phase will be 10-15-20 amps, depending on the speed. but why then after the relay output controller only 10-15 amps? instead of 60? what happens to 30-40 amps? Why switch to control the voltage with increasing speed always increases, current is always growing, and after the relay current and voltage increases only up to a certain speed? and then begins to fall? what happens to the voltage and current? If you remove the wire from the relay, you'll see that the voltage increases with increasing speed. when we put the relay controller, we see that the voltage to the relay ceases to grow. and the current continues to grow. why? what happens to current? stress? to leave power? and how to take it from there

 

[satariel666]

The answer is simple. We need a diffrent regulator.
Most motorcycles regulators works like a shunt (Шунт)
Some works in short control as You were describing it in a few post back - simply switching the current excess to the GND thus frame.

We need that one:

http://www.shindengen.com/resources/content/1/1/1/1/documents/FH012 Data.pdf

 

[шульц.]

thanks for the link. but only, it seems to work on the same principle ... closes over the masses. does not reduce the high voltage to the desired level, and removes too much ... or in this case I am wrong to think? need to buy and to measure everything thanks for the link. and again on the stator winding of the generator, could you describe in detail how you shook "as the group gathered, how many revolutions," we have is a square wire. if she wound, it will cross more and it falls completely flat. but the wire is expensive.

 

[шульц.]

satariel666 thanks for the tip. relay just keeps chudesnoe.zaryadku 14.3 since 1100 and up to 10000 rpm. easily fits under the left cover the pad for the relay-boost, closer to the rider thanks. even without rewinding the generator. but all the electrical staff. anything extra no.

 

[satariel666]

No problem. Glad I could help.