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In FL you can have your own shooting range in your residential neighborhood. Statutory info enclosed.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/26/3895027/big-pine-key-homeowner-has-gun.html


Title XLVI
CRIMES
Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS
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790.15 Discharging firearm in public or on residential property.—
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) or subsection (3), any person who knowingly discharges a firearm in any public place or on the right-of-way of any paved public road, highway, or street, who knowingly discharges any firearm over the right-of-way of any paved public road, highway, or street or over any occupied premises, or who recklessly or negligently discharges a firearm outdoors on any property used primarily as the site of a dwelling as defined in s. 776.013 or zoned exclusively for residential use commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This section does not apply to a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm or to a person discharging a firearm on public roads or properties expressly approved for hunting by the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or Florida Forest Service.
(2) Any occupant of any vehicle who knowingly and willfully discharges any firearm from the vehicle within 1,000 feet of any person commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) Any driver or owner of any vehicle, whether or not the owner of the vehicle is occupying the vehicle, who knowingly directs any other person to discharge any firearm from the vehicle commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...tute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.15.html
 

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That's Totally Freaking Awesome.
And, I have a big back yard too.:ummm::punk::eusa_dance::clapping:
 
I'm setting up a range in my backyard when I get home! When the neighbor two doors down plays his drums with the windows open, I'll open the range for use first thing in the morning when the noise ordinance hours are lifted xD



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My brother went thru this, sort of. He lives in unincorporated Harris county, but it's and older established neighborhood on 5-7 acre heavily wooded lots. Use to be a "horsey" neighborhood.

It's perfectly legal to shoot in any Texas County. Texas has firearms
Preemption laws too and they are abided by. Specifically says no one but the state can regulate, sale, possession, ownership, transfer of ownership etc of firearms.
The way it's written still allows Municipalities To regulate WHERE you shoot and that's it.
A county is not a municipality therefore Counties cannot.


He had a slew of issues over the years and eventually lost in a CIVIL suit from the HOA over "noise disturbances", degradation of property values and etc.... and ended up building his own indoor firing range to suppress the noise.
He had the money to fight it (to a excessive "go fuck yourself" degree, he's a very successful electrical contractor) and actually enjoyed forcing the HOA to drain their budget fucking with him even knowing he'd probably lose.

It will even handle his Barrett .50 so obviously he went all out. Several layers of half inch plate steel behind several layers of ballistic blocks that look like black cinder blocks. It's inside a 200 x 100 foot longer all barn. Fully and heavily sound insulated.

Sometimes he still leaves the doors open...... ; )
 
My brother went thru this, sort of. He lives in unincorporated Harris county, but it's and older established neighborhood on 5-7 acre lots.

It's perfectly legal to shoot in counties. And the homeowners association had no by laws against it.

He had a slew of issues over the years and eventually lost in court over "noise disturbances" and ended up building his own indoor firing range to suppress the noise.

It will even handle his Barret .50 so obviously he went all out. It's inside a 200 x 100 foot longer all barn.

I have a suppressor for my AR and one that will fit multiple pistols. Personally I prefer to use the suppressor at all times when shooting so I may forgo ear protection. Unfortunately this only works when at a private range since you cannot control the actions of others.

I would love to have your brother's setup, however the cost of such a setup is prohibitive to most.
 
Man I hear a lot of people these days talk bout suppressors.

How are y'all doing this?
That's an NFA item isn't it!
 
Man I hear a lot of people these days talk bout suppressors.

How are y'all doing this?
That's an NFA item isn't it!

It is NFA however easy to get the old fashioned way in FL or via the trust method (my preferred method). Old fashion way require sign off by local sheriff department per item plus the obligatory 200 tax stamp and can only have one owner/operator legally. The trust method however makes it so multiple people can legally own the NFA item simply by being an executor of the trust. Basically with a trust it is fun for the whole family (or friends, etc depends on who you put on the trust), with the regular route you can only legally use it yourself and it makes changing ownership an ordeal.

Having your own trust is good for other things as well from a legal perspective. I would suggest reading up on it extensively and if you have a legal buddy who deals with trust law I would buy him lunch to pick his brain for more insight.

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It is NFA however easy to get the old fashioned way in FL or via the trust method (my preferred method). Old fashion way require sign off by local sheriff department per item plus the obligatory 200 tax stamp and can only have one owner/operator legally. The trust method however makes it so multiple people can legally own the NFA item simply by being an executor of the trust. Basically with a trust it is fun for the whole family (or friends, etc depends on who you put on the trust), with the regular route you can only legally use it yourself and it makes changing ownership an ordeal.

Having your own trust is good for other things as well from a legal perspective. I would suggest reading up on it extensively and if you have a legal buddy who deals with trust law I would buy him lunch to pick his brain for more insight.

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I believe the corporate trust method is how my brother does it. He has a lot of NFA full auto stuff, mostly WWI AND WWII machine guns, plus an awesome P90
 
More than likely, I have only met one person who went the traditional route and he has regretted it ever since. He is actually going to pay the $200 tax stamp again to transfer it to his trust.

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I looked at how he had his range setup. I am VERY skeptical of it. I only shoot handguns in my range setup and I ve had lead fly back that would scare you but not hurt you. I am shooting into a specially made trap of 1/4 steel plate, angled and filled with rubber and sealed in front by card board to contain most of the lead from bouncing back through. The way he is shooting just seems really dangerous. No backstop other than his shed? What happens if he has a boat going by, a small fishing boat with no motor. They walked back and checked it out, but you tell me that not one person happens to ever go behind his back stop ? Seems like its close to breaking rule #4. And close doesn't cut it for me.



RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it;e.g. "Treat all guns as if they were loaded." Unfortunately, the "as if" compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.

All guns are always loaded - period!

This must be your mind-set. If someone hands you a firearm and says, "Don't worry, it's not loaded," you do not dare believe him. You need not be impolite, but check it yourself. Remember, there are no accidents, only negligent acts. Check it. Do not let yourself fall prey to a situation where you might feel compelled to squeal, "I didn't know it was loaded!"

RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY

Conspicuously and continuously violated, especially with pistols, Rule II applies whether you are involved in range practice, daily carry, or examination. If the weapon is assembled and in someone's hands, it is capable of being discharged. A firearm holstered properly, lying on a table, or placed in a scabbard is of no danger to anyone. Only when handled is there a need for concern. This rule applies to fighting as well as to daily handling. If you are not willing to take a human life, do not cover a person with the muzzle. This rule also applies to your own person. Do not allow the muzzle to cover your extremities, e.g. using both hands to reholster the pistol. This practice is unsound, both procedurally and tactically. You may need a free hand for something important. Proper holster design should provide for one-handed holstering, so avoid holsters which collapse after withdrawing the pistol. (Note: It is dangerous to push the muzzle against the inside edge of the holster nearest the body to "open" it since this results in your pointing the pistol at your midsection.) Dry-practice in the home is a worthwhile habit and it will result in more deeply programmed reflexes. Most of the reflexes involved in the Modern Technique do not require that a shot be fired. Particular procedures for dry-firing in the home will be covered later. Let it suffice for now that you do not dry-fire using a "target" that you wish not to see destroyed. (Recall RULE I as well.)



Rule III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

Rule III is violated most anytime the uneducated person handles a firearm. Whether on TV, in the theaters, or at the range, people seem fascinated with having their finger on the trigger. Never stand or walk around with your finger on the trigger. It is unprofessional, dangerous, and, perhaps most damaging to the psyche, it is klutzy looking. Never fire a shot unless the sights are superimposed on the target and you have made a conscious decision to fire. Firing an unaligned pistol in a fight gains nothing. If you believe that the defensive pistol is only an intimidation tool - not something to be used - carry blanks, or better yet, reevaluate having one around. If you are going to launch a projectile, it had best be directed purposely. Danger abounds if you allow your finger to dawdle inside the trigger guard. As soon as the sights leave the target, the trigger-finger leaves the trigger and straightens alongside the frame. Since the hand normally prefers to work as a unit - as in grasping - separating the function of the trigger-finger from the rest of the hand takes effort. The five-finger grasp is a deeply programmed reflex. Under sufficient stress, and with the finger already placed on the trigger, an unexpected movement, misstep or surprise could result in a negligent discharge. Speed cannot be gained from such a premature placement of the trigger-finger. Bringing the sights to bear on the target, whether from the holster or the Guard Position, takes more time than that required for moving the trigger finger an inch or so to the trigger.



RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

Know what it is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything you have not positively identified. Be aware of your surroundings, whether on the range or in a fight. Do not assume anything. Know what you are doing.



SUMMARY:

Make these rules a part of your character. Never compromise them. Improper gunhandling results from ignorance and improper role modeling, such as handling your gun like your favorite actor does. Education can cure this. You can make a difference by following these gunhandling rules and insisting that those around you do the same. Set the example. Who knows what tragedies you, or someone you influence, may prevent?
 
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