ok the gen 2 is srsly bad

[satariel666]

So let me understand ???? The busa accelarates bette than gen 2 ?????

Yes cuz 2 gen is like a big heavy pig on two wheels....with poor weight to power performance...

 

[jbretthorton]

A busa DOES NOT accelerate better than the GenII in the first few gears, especially in lower RPMS, I have ridden a couple 2008 Busa, and in lower rpm, lower gears, their is NO comparison what so ever. after about 120-130 then the Suzuki comes alive for sure.

 

[Redbone]

A busa DOES NOT accelerate better than the GenII in the first few gears, especially in lower RPMS, I have ridden a couple 2008 Busa, and in lower rpm, lower gears, their is NO comparison what so ever. after about 120-130 then the Suzuki comes alive for sure.

And a good bit of that can be attributed to the Busa's sculpted aerodynamics I suspect. No matter how much HP you have to get to the really fast speeds you'll need a aerodynamic setup, considering stock bikes that is.

 

[satariel666]

And a good bit of that can be attributed to the Busa's sculpted aerodynamics I suspect. No matter how much HP you have to get to the really fast speeds you'll need a aerodynamic setup, considering stock bikes that is.

...and areodynamincs of v-max is a like a school bus which we loves for sure LOL

A busa DOES NOT accelerate better than the GenII in the first few gears, especially in lower RPMS, I have ridden a couple 2008 Busa, and in lower rpm, lower gears, their is NO comparison what so ever. after about 120-130 then the Suzuki comes alive for sure.

I will not agree.

I haven't ridden the 2 gen but, I was racing it while sitting on a 2008 busa...2gen is completly no match, no matter what speed either rpm you will consider your judgement.

 

[jbretthorton]

I have been on a lot of bikes, Many Many way Faster than the Busa and the Vmax (Considering stock or near stock) , So with respect I know what I am talking about. It is not quicker in the context I mention....

 

[satariel666]

I have been on a lot of bikes, Many Many way Faster than the Busa and the Vmax (Considering stock or near stock) , So with respect I know what I am talking about. It is not quicker in the context I mention....

I also have been on many bikes which is not an argument at all my friend.

Quater mile times are telling me that im right btw...

 

[jbretthorton]

I also have been on many bikes which is not an argument at all my friend.

Quater mile times are telling me that im right btw...

That's EXACTLY why I said first 2 or 3 gears.... 120 mph or so..... I am not going to get in a pissing match with... You said you have not riding a Gen II, so you can't have a personal opinion on the matter.
It's all goodunk:

 

[satariel666]

I aslo may be very harsh cuz I dont like that bike at all :biglaugh:

 

[mattness]

hmm ya id have to say the gen 2 would win in town for sure. in first gear at idle u just whack it and it just eats without even slipping the clutch. i srsly doubt a busa is gonna launch easily without some serious clutch slipping or bogging. the gen 2 probably makes more torque at 2500 rpm than the busa does at redline

 

[RaWarrior]

Like the gen 1 the gen 2 is, for all intensive purposes, a stoplight-to-stoplight king. It's heavy and (still) has aerodynamics of an elephant with gobs of torque.

A 90hp compact can push 110mph or so
A 250hp sedan can do 150mph
A 1000hp Veryon can do 250mph

IIRC the formula for drag is -.5p*v^3*A*C

p is density (1.2 kg/m^3)
v is velocity (in m/s)
A is area exposed (m^2)
C is the drag coeff (.9 is close for a lot of motorcycles....a prius is like .25 or something)

I might have messed up the units, I did shitty in fluids class.

If you can figure out the frontal area of your bike you could calculate the drag wind puts on it.

Doubling speed quadruples drag. Since the vehicle is now doing 4x as much work in 1/2 the time, 8x more energy is required. Why a huge increase in power only results in a tiny increase in top speed.

 

[VMAX1260]

I have riden my friends gen II and i execute busa's ,i execute with my gen i my friend with the gen II ( NOT STOCK GEN 1 LOTS OF MONEY)which when i ride it i execute everything in 2 wheels.. the engine do what yu command it to do. i have riden busa's if you have a decent tire in gen II so you can prevent it for spining even in the forth gear ... busa could stay behind it with surgery efoord for the 0-400. i was surprised how the gen II handles in the corners too. my friends when i took his bike and gave mine to him he couldnt believe it. switching in a gen II in handling corners is like you invested 10.000 euros in gen I just for trying making handling better , but gen II can turn i rode it and believe me my gen I that has cost me in greece more than 40.000 euros only on its dreams can turn like gen II.

 

[acammer]

Like the gen 1 the gen 2 is, for all intensive purposes, a stoplight-to-stoplight king. It's heavy and (still) has aerodynamics of an elephant with gobs of torque.

A 90hp compact can push 110mph or so
A 250hp sedan can do 150mph
A 1000hp Veryon can do 250mph

IIRC the formula for drag is -.5p*v^3*A*C

p is density (1.2 kg/m^3)
v is velocity (in m/s)
A is area exposed (m^2)
C is the drag coeff (.9 is close for a lot of motorcycles....a prius is like .25 or something)

I might have messed up the units, I did shitty in fluids class.

If you can figure out the frontal area of your bike you could calculate the drag wind puts on it.

Doubling speed quadruples drag. Since the vehicle is now doing 4x as much work in 1/2 the time, 8x more energy is required. Why a huge increase in power only results in a tiny increase in top speed.

A nice, real world example is that if a sedan needs 75hp to do 100mph, it needs 300hp to do 150mph, and 600hp to do 200mph.

VMAX1260 - agreed, stoplight to stoplight is all about the rider - I messed with plenty of crotch rockets while on my Intruder1400, which put all of about 70hp to the rear wheel. Never the less, it had short gears, tons of traction, torque, and was very light. The right launch on the street would leave with a little wheels spin, carry the front tire through first, and bang second at 40mph. (like I said, short gears). By 60mph, even the 600's could come screaming back past, but I lost to precious few from a dead stop.