Okay so I was at the dealship last night picking up a lever for my wife's scooter(we bought it used and it had one with the tip broke off). Was talking to one of the salesmen who knew I had a Vmax. I knew he had sold one already so I asked him when he expected it to be delievered. He informed me they don't expect it until mid to late November but they already have 8 of them on order with deposits. I am just amazed that many people are putting out that kind of money on a bike they have never seen other then a picture.