Stator questions

[89max]

I need a stator. I've been doing some research, and know I should go for a venture part. But what year? 1200 or 1300 venture? Does it matter?

Thanks in advance!

 

[CaptainKyle]

I need a stator. I've been doing some research, and know I should go for a venture part. But what year? 1200 or 1300 venture? Does it matter?

Thanks in advance!

The Ricks stators seem to work better than Yamahas its the same part number for the Vmax or Venture. I can get them for $ 125 plus shipping & the new stlye RR's for $ 68 bucks. The holiday will slow down my ordering a bit just PM me if I can help you. Thanks,Kyle

 

[alorio1]

I would go with Rick's stator, its new and if you have any problems you can contact Captainkyle....he's always on here.

 

[m-cman]

Does anyone know the output of the stock Max, Venture and Rick's stators? (At idle and max output at rpm). :ummm:

 

[alorio1]

Oil leaks, that would be a major concern if I replaced mine with a Venture stator, here is a thread that should help you in your decision;

http://www.vmaxforum.net/showthread.php?t=18547&highlight=venture+stator

 

[CaptainKyle]

Does anyone know the output of the stock Max, Venture and Rick's stators? (At idle and max output at rpm). :ummm:

The last Yamaha one I put in was 12.9 at idle & the last Ricks was 13.5 both bikes with new RR & the crimp fix.

 

[davidon]

I was going to give this guy a try if my stator goes..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-0...orcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2136wt_1049

 

[m-cman]

The last Yamaha one I put in was 12.9 at idle & the last Ricks was 13.5 both bikes with new RR & the crimp fix.

I would like to know the wattage output of all three. My Odyessy battery runs down when I use all my electrical accessories even when cruising at 80 on a trip. Have to let the bike sit for at least 30 minutes for the Odyessy to kinda recharge before the bike will start.

Have to be selective with the extra lights, etc. I have a 55/100W headlight bulb, two 35W Motolights on the lower forks, a 55W extra light under the headlight to compensate for the crappy stock headlight, a rear light replacing the reflector, the rear turnsignals are set up as running lights like the front, high output taillight bulbs (2) and a 12v accessory port for my GPS or whatever. With everything on, the charging system can't keep up. Already did the crimp fix, just need more output.

 

[maleko89]

Stock charging system puts out 350 watts. I believe Venture was at least 400 but can't recall. It's in the service manuals and maybe someone has access to the Venture manual.

 

[CaptainKyle]

Stock charging system puts out 350 watts. I believe Venture was at least 400 but can't recall. It's in the service manuals and maybe someone has access to the Venture manual.

I will see if I can look it up in a bit. I believe Ricks just makes the stator to venture standards since they only have 1 part number for both of them. For future referance I have access to almost every Yamaha Manual made since 85 thru the dealer Network this includes watercraft & snowmobile. I can look some things up for people but can get in big trouble for giving out the passwords to the dealer network so please dont ask.

 

[maleko89]

Thanks. Man! I won't ask!

 

[CaptainKyle]

Thanks. Man! I won't ask!

Hope you dont think I wa sbeing rude. I just cant hand out these passwords.

 

[dingy]

Stock charging system puts out 350 watts. I believe Venture was at least 400 but can't recall. It's in the service manuals and maybe someone has access to the Venture manual.

Specs on an 1st gen Venture are:

83-93 Stator 14V, 30 amps @ 5,000 RPM's

F-X736 Hitachi

83-93 Regulator Short Circuit style SH545 Shindengen 14-15V

83-93 Rectifier Capacity 26A Withstand Voltage 200V

Gary

 

[maleko89]

Thanks, that's 420 Watts.

 

[satariel666]

Thanks, that's 420 Watts.

Its only a slight diffrence with wire gauge, the core is the same.
I found that while rewinding stator myself.

 

[daves86vmax]

i was also looking into the ebay remanufactured ones also..mine still loses charge when it gets hot and the fan kicks on..i replaced it with a used one but am getting the feeling its no better than my old one.

 

[CaptainKyle]

I put an order in today for the one person that ask me for The Ricks stator at $ 125 if any one else neds one let me know before like 5 today so I can add it to the order.

 

[Rusty McNeil]

If everything else in the system is performing up to spec and there aren't any bad connections the stock stator is mor than adequate for the job, I'm running TWO 100 watt front lamps and still getting a positive charge at idle with ALL stock components on my 99, took a lot of work to get it there tho' cutting out connectors and soldering wires, running new cables and grounds etc.....

 

[RaWarrior]

I ended up replacing the original stator(which crapped out once the motor got hot) with a Rick's part I got off ebay. Only complaint was the grommet for the wires didn't fit as snug as I would like, so I added a little RTV. No oil leaks. I had tried the crimp fix, which slightly boosted voltage but didn't really cure the problem. The OEM harness is crap, it's extremely lossy because Yamaha was cheap with wire gauges. (I have 14.4v at battery, only a tad over 13v at the headlight connector....1.5 volts vanishes between them in the wiring)

I also got the R/R from a Ninja ZX14...found it for like $20 on ebay. Stator is wired directly to the R/R, R/R's output and ground go directly to the battery. The Ninja part is similar to the "R1 mod", except the part itself is considerably slimmer. It also fits perfectly on the rear coil mounting plate, which on my bike was empty since I have COPs. Also conveniently, it's right on top of the battery, so the output wire is only like 3 inches long.

With the 100w highbeam and fan running, at idle, I still have 13.2v. 13.5 no fan and 55w light. Regardless of load, by 1500 it's up to a perfect 14.4v measured across the battery.

 

[firefly]

I ended up replacing the original stator(which crapped out once the motor got hot) with a Rick's part I got off ebay. Only complaint was the grommet for the wires didn't fit as snug as I would like, so I added a little RTV. No oil leaks. I had tried the crimp fix, which slightly boosted voltage but didn't really cure the problem. The OEM harness is crap, it's extremely lossy because Yamaha was cheap with wire gauges. (I have 14.4v at battery, only a tad over 13v at the headlight connector....1.5 volts vanishes between them in the wiring)

I also got the R/R from a Ninja ZX14...found it for like $20 on ebay. Stator is wired directly to the R/R, R/R's output and ground go directly to the battery. The Ninja part is similar to the "R1 mod", except the part itself is considerably slimmer. It also fits perfectly on the rear coil mounting plate, which on my bike was empty since I have COPs. Also conveniently, it's right on top of the battery, so the output wire is only like 3 inches long.

With the 100w highbeam and fan running, at idle, I still have 13.2v. 13.5 no fan and 55w light. Regardless of load, by 1500 it's up to a perfect 14.4v measured across the battery.

+1 my 2003 has a bad harness from new, it drove me crazy, after connecting the RR directly to battery +ve and grounding the the -ve to the frame I am getting 14.3v above 1500RPM with stock stator & RR, I think I can gain a little more if I solder the stator to RR wires.

why can't someone make harnesses for max & sell them $50.00 less then new stock ones, I'll be the first to buy one. many replace the stator & RR and still have lousy charging volts. the problem is harness connectors & grounding.
I replaced the stator, the RR & battery and still had 12.60 volts:bang head:, the big benefit came from directly grounding the -ve RR to the frame :Angel: & a negligible gain from directly connecting the +ve RR to the +ve battery terminal, the splice fix did nothing in my case.