Trevon is at it again???

[jfeagins]

How else was "He gonna get his money?"

"Trevon Johnson, 17, burglarized the home of a 54-year-old old woman last Thursday, according to Miami-Dade police."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...fter-homeowner-shoots-kills-burglary-suspect/

 

[Tex85]

How else was "He gonna get his money?"

Could get a job... I guess it's hard to get money for skittles and tea.

 

[D-Max2012]

If there was such a thing called "Real Justice" This case should be seen as, "If that teen was not burglarizing anyone, he'd still be alive today" End of story.. But some douche lawyer out there will try the angle of "her life was not in imminent danger before the confrontation, or this did not happen inside the home where there was no other way out, or some nonsense like that. Instead, this will most likely play out as "Criminal Justice".. Where now days, that term means, Justice for the Criminal..

 

[caseyjones955]

“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” Harris continued. “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point of view.”

Have you ever heard such crushing entitlement (besides privileged white girl sues parents for tuition)?

In some states she could be in trouble for capping this punk if he did not pose immediate threat to her. It's shocking and depressing how many states do NOT allow lethal force to protect property.

I'm not sure in her state but I dont believe she has legal duty to retreat. If she felt threatened she may be in the legal right, but if she knew there was an intruder there and rushed home anyway it could call into question her fear. I suspect her lawyer might have some work to do. I'm not saying you should automatically cap any intruder on your property, but you should sure have the right to. In her case I agree with her decision to use lethal force.

 

[Miles Long]

Quite sure that "capping" an intruder just because he is on your own property is illegal in Canada.
I believe the intruder has to be in your house, and posing an immediate threat to you or your family. Even then, if the perp. is trying to flee from the house, you can't blast him.

 

[Traumahawk]

Here is Oklahomas laws.

Castle Doctrine

Oklahoma has a self-defense law based on the castle doctrine. Enacted by the state in 2006, Oklahoma’s “stand your ground” extends greater protection to armed crime victims than most other states. The law provides for persons to defend themselves, by any means necessary, if their home, vehicle or place of business is invaded by someone else. The state does not have a duty to retreat, permitting the use of deadly force in such circumstances so long as the victim has a reasonable belief that the person breaking in intends to use physical force.

The law also extends civil and criminal immunity to persons who injure or kill someone while being criminally attacked.

I dont know how Floridas laws are.....but did she feel threatened, and was she in fear of her life. 2 easy questions to answer.

LOL....you might want to step on my property very easily.....:th_biggun:

 

[tothemax93]

I'd like to know the ethnicity of the shooter. Most likely black or the article would have said differently. She had been broken into before. The article said there was a confrontation that lead to the shooting. She didn't just "capp" him running away. To justify breaking and entering ,stealing for clothes and school supplies is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I guess that's how you think when your raised by the Government, and not productive adults.

 

[jfeagins]

I'd like to know the ethnicity of the shooter. Most likely black or the article would have said differently. She had been broken into before. The article said there was a confrontation that lead to the shooting. She didn't just "capp" him running away. To justify breaking and entering ,stealing for clothes and school supplies is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I guess that's how you think when your raised by the Government, and not productive adults.

Besides which, any good Democrat (cough) knows to wait for the Gov't to steal from the hard working class, then give them the rewards from having done so at a later time.
aka: can't wait for your free handouts - risk getting shot.

 

[dannymax]

We, here in NY, don't have any Stand your ground or Castle laws....what we have is Duty to Retreat laws.

I feel much better now!! :doh: Oiy!!

1. Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
2. Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
3. Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.

Here are the states that have passed stand your ground laws:

• Alabama
• Alaska
• Arizona
• Florida
• Georgia
• Indiana
• Kansas
• Kentucky
• Louisiana
• Michigan
• Mississippi
• Montana
• Nevada
• New Hampshire
• North Carolina
• Oklahoma
• Pennsylvania
• South Carolina
• South Dakota
• Tennessee
• Texas
• Utah
• West Virginia http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimina...nd-your-ground-laws.html#sthash.iLBW0kiv.dpuf

 

[Traumahawk]

We, here in NY, don't have any Stand your ground or Castle laws....what we have is Duty to Retreat laws.

I feel much better now!! :doh: Oiy!!

1. Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
2. Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
3. Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.

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   You know Danny, your NOT making me feel any safer about coming to visit you...lol
   :icon_axe:

 

[D-Max2012]

My place was broken into a few years ago. A good $30,000 worth of goods were stolen. When the police got there, they instantly noticed, I was heavily into radio control models and other home built items. I told one of the officers, if I was home, the perp(s) would have needed the coroner also. The officer told me that I was not allowed to harm a human life, in the protection of private property, so long as I was not in imminent danger. So I asked him, "What, am I supposed to just sit back and watch the perp(s) help themselves to my hard earned goods". He said "Unfortunately, Yes". I then asked him, "What if I rigged up a ****y trap system to hold them in place till authorities arrived",,, he said,, "Going by what what I see you're into, you could certainly rig up something,, but You would then be arrested".. So, If that's not "Criminal Justice" I don't know what is..

 

[dannymax]

You know Danny, your NOT making me feel any safer about coming to visit you...lol
:icon_axe:

We'll be OK Eric....you can trust me on this! :biglaugh:

 

[sdt354]

Quite sure that "capping" an intruder just because he is on your own property is illegal in Canada.
I believe the intruder has to be in your house, and posing an immediate threat to you or your family. Even then, if the perp. is trying to flee from the house, you can't blast him.

In Massachusetts, if you cap them in the back of the head, you must drag them into the house and place a knife in their hand. I don't know, it must be an old law that never got changed?

 

[caseyjones955]

I deal with trespassers regularly, sometimes daily in summer months. I'm not kind to any of them except those that get swallowed up by the creek and wander onto the property injured. All others are greeted by an angry armed white guy asking them why the **** they cant read "no trespassing" signs, I make sure they never ever want to come back. Sometimes they get a parting gift if they want to argue (some do). If I find anyone in my house its over. ******* over. Threat to family can only end one way. What idiot would break into a house unarmed?

 

[tothemax93]

We, here in NY, don't have any Stand your ground or Castle laws....what we have is Duty to Retreat laws.

I feel much better now!! :doh: Oiy!!

If your in my house uninvited, you are an imminent threat. you have no real idea of the intent of a perpetrator. NYS law is the last thing your thinking about, When your in this highly charged, adrenaline filled, life threatening situation. To put it simply, I'm probably going to jail. The good news is the guy won't be breaking into anybody else's house, and my familys safe. It's easy to write a nice law, but I wonder how many of those legislators have been in that situation. I wonder when the last time was, that the Governers was broken into:hmmm:

 

[dannymax]

If your in my house uninvited, you are an imminent threat. you have no real idea of the intent of a perpetrator. NYS law is the last thing your thinking about, When your in this highly charged, adrenaline filled, life threatening situation. To put it simply, I'm probably going to jail. The good news is the guy won't be breaking into anybody else's house, and my familys safe. It's easy to write a nice law, but I wonder how many of those legislators have been in that situation. I wonder when the last time was, that the Governers was broken into:hmmm:

That's it right there! I've never been there and hope to God I never am, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a lot of time to figure out what is or isn't an imminent threat....you may be forced to make a snap decision....but it does seem reasonable to assume anyone coming through the door (or window) uninvited is probly gonna place you and your family in imminent danger and quick action is required.