Since you mentioned it, I HAVE SEEN MARCUS RIDE. :worthy: I was fortunate to be behind Marcus & Ron (on a Gen II) as they battled their way back across a PA mountain ride on the Sat Thunder ride. It was a great view. First one would take the lead coming off a curve, then the other. I was always one curve back (they left the parking lot ahead of me) and could not reel either one of them in as we zipped along that hwy. Ron & Marcus can ride. :clapping::clapping::clapping: Awesome ride that day!