Ball Peen Hammer

[eatatjoz]

My brother carried golf balls as a back off warning. It seemed to work pretty good.
They'd bounce once from the asphault and slap the windshield of the offender.

Myself... I've kicked a car door or two, and flipped roadkill up with my boot. Lots of foot dragging in mud puddles, and I even threw my helmet at one fucker.
I'm not too worried about guns being pulled. The vmax is faster than someone can aim, (and I carry a .45)

Generally I let it go, but people don't respect bikes at all. If they do something that puts me in harm, I'm running away if I can, or making them give me space.

 

[KJShover]

An Asp will do you just fine, they come in a variety of lengths (16-31"), Its solid, easy to handle, and it collapses to about 7" (6" for 16" and 7-3/4" for 21")

 

[WOLFIE]

lol i may just use my 239 (lil blue)

sargeunk:

 

[KJShover]

A good PR 24 won't let you down either :biglaugh:

 

[rebar]

An Asp will do you just fine, they come in a variety of lengths (16-31"), Its solid, easy to handle, and it collapses to about 7" (6" for 16" and 7-3/4" for 21")

Are those legal KJ?

 

[98Redlne]

In most states a collapsible baton is considered an offensive weapon and is illegal for all but LEOs....not all states, but most.

 

[Rollie]

A long adjustable wrench for " rear wheel adjustments " can be as effective as a hammer , and you can justify carrying it. + steel toe boots ..... and the Glock .

 

[RaWarrior]

While I won't deny it's fun to talk about this sort of stuff, as others said "only in the movies". There's a surprising number of people that for whatever reason hate bikers, and go out of their way to be an asshole to them. It's not a great strategy to fool with a 3-ton SUV when you're on a 500lb bike.

I drive offensively in my 4-ton truck, and defensively on the bike. When you encounter someone being an asswipe in a cage, the best course of action is just to get away. You can outmaneuver, outbrake, and out accelerate 99% of the cars on the road. Grab a handful of v-boost and leave them in the dust.

Believe it or not the biggest asshole I encountered was some middle age lady in a baby-blue Toyota minivan. It was later at night, prob 10-11 or so, I was up near Schroon on I87 and cruising along at 90 or so on my Magna. Zero traffic. This van, which I vaguely remember passing a few miles back, starts gaining and pulls up right on my ass in the right hand lane. I give the 500 everything it's got and it manages to pull it up to about 105....minivan is still right there. Left lane is totally deserted. After a mile or two of this, I swerve to the left lane and jam the brakes. The van continues. Here's the thing...I catch back up to the van, now going like 70 instead of matching my 100+. I'm almost at my exit and don't feel like going round 2 with the soccer mom, so I pull back up behind her and put the highbeam on....like 10 seconds later I saw her reach up and fiddle with the rear view through the back window....hahaha...so I slid over a bit and rode the dotted line pointing it straight into the side mirror instead.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

Quoted For Truth!

Well,
I was operating under the thought that those here have a solid dose of common sense. In the movie by the time Lightfoot figured out what the hell was happening the chick out maneuvered him, and out accelerated him. Hottest thing on four wheels I ever ran on the MAX was a turbo Porsche, and it walked away from him hard. In some type of altercation with any of the various highway idiots you have to assume evasive action will be called for. :hmmm:

 

[85 MAX-fan]

A certain large Motorcycle Club carries ball peen hammers......and uses it as an unofficial symbol and even sells little ones as keychains:whistlin:

Yes,
Having a hand tool may prove to be more defensible than a collapsible baton. As I understand it law in many states defines that type of weapon as illegal to carry even if you have a CCP. However, a ball peen hammer carried ON THE BIKE is neither a weapon specifically or concealed.
As far as swinging it while moving I digress to your own evaluation of your skill and circumstances. In any major city though, there will come a time where cars can't chase or get away due to traffic, usually the bike can split lanes and say sooo long!
Some years ago while caught in traffic I watched a road rage incident where a younger tough guy was giving a real hard time to an old man. I decided right there that if he got out of the car to escalate it I was going to move in from out of sight and convince him otherwise. Most around the old guy just got wide eyed and gripped their steering wheels in fear..... It was too windy for the spray to be relied upon.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

While I won't deny it's fun to talk about this sort of stuff, as others said "only in the movies". There's a surprising number of people that for whatever reason hate bikers, and go out of their way to be an asshole to them. It's not a great strategy to fool with a 3-ton SUV when you're on a 500lb bike.

I drive offensively in my 4-ton truck, and defensively on the bike. When you encounter someone being an asswipe in a cage, the best course of action is just to get away. You can outmaneuver, outbrake, and out accelerate 99% of the cars on the road. Grab a handful of v-boost and leave them in the dust.

Believe it or not the biggest asshole I encountered was some middle age lady in a baby-blue Toyota minivan. It was later at night, prob 10-11 or so, I was up near Schroon on I87 and cruising along at 90 or so on my Magna. Zero traffic. This van, which I vaguely remember passing a few miles back, starts gaining and pulls up right on my ass in the right hand lane. I give the 500 everything it's got and it manages to pull it up to about 105....minivan is still right there. Left lane is totally deserted. After a mile or two of this, I swerve to the left lane and jam the brakes. The van continues. Here's the thing...I catch back up to the van, now going like 70 instead of matching my 100+. I'm almost at my exit and don't feel like going round 2 with the soccer mom, so I pull back up behind her and put the highbeam on....like 10 seconds later I saw her reach up and fiddle with the rear view through the back window....hahaha...so I slid over a bit and rode the dotted line pointing it straight into the side mirror instead.

I too have had encounters with psychotic women drivers in mini-vans. They were out of control, and when you think about probably only alive because it is illegal for normal folks to kill them.

 

[KJShover]

Are those legal KJ?

You might want to check your local laws. I still have mine around here somewhere in a box along with my duty belt, cuffs, etc...

 

[Fire-medic]

I've been pretty lucky. I've only had one parking lot altercation. I was on an older goldwing when a car tried to run thru the parking lot gate behind someone else and then backed up into me. It was a woman driver who jumped out and started screaming how sorry she was and that she didn't have insurance (mexican national. I lived 5 miles from the border in south tx at the time) and that her husband was going to kill her.

After going around and around I told her to fuck off as the tow truck was finally there. By this time her husband showed up. How he got there so fast I have no clue cuz I never made it across the bridge in less then 50 minutes and that was if you started the clock with me sitting in line at the bridge! Since I had stopped threatening to have the police get involved, He decided to go for broke. He wanted my insurance cuz clearly I had rammed his wife and that forced her to stop mid way thru the turn stall and the damage to the hood of her car was there for my fault. I refused since s/he couldn't return the favor. He threatened to call the police. I asked if he needed the number for 911 or if he had already committed it to memory. The fool called.

The police showed up. Told him his wife was at fault. At this point the husband just goes ballistic. He ended up being 'forceably restrained' (20/20 did a special on police brutality of this department in Mc Allen); as far as I am concerned the wack to the head was deserved.

At this point the wife launched herself at one of the two cops so she ended up in chains and getting a free ride. Since there was two responding officers and two cars one stayed to wait for the second tow truck. I got to wave with a smile at the bad man as he was taken away. The ass hole spit on the window at me.

At the end of all this my tow truck driver who had been silent thru all this finally turned to me and said in total dead pan, "This job has it's moments." Rest of the ride was in silence. Pretty sure if I had pulled out a ball peen hammer this would have been a different ending.

One of the more-entertaining stories about wack-jobs you see on the roads.

Keeping your cool and withdrawing is always the best choice. If they pursue you and escalate, there are many people on here who can inform you about your right to defend.

My buddy had a new supercharged T-bird pull a 'no-signal' u-turn in-front of him on his bike, on a city surface-street, he was able to avoid t-boning the boner himself, but just barely. The guy jumped out of his car and charged the bike which was stopped in the middle of the road, the guy came up & hit the motorcyclist on the side of the helmet & started screaming at him. My bud got off, leaving the bike running, walked-away from the car driver, who started following him around the car. The motorcyclist waited until the guy was coming, then he stomped the passenger door in with the sole of his shoe, ran-around the front of the car, hopped on his bike, & took off. Needless to say, the car tried to follow, but when has that ever been successful in an urban environment?

 

[gundoc_iowa]

The collapsible baton is something that depends on where you live...here in Iowa the batron falls inmto the category of a "pocket billy" and can be carried as a weapon if you have a permit to carry a weapon. I remember when I was a teenager and rode a scooter (from 14 to 16) we would often get chased and harassed by the older kids in cars. Once I got chased and passed by a kid in an older Escort GT, he whiped in front of me and cut me off and slammed on the brakes. I barely got stopped in time to keep from rear ending them. He thought it was really funny until I walked up to the window...drug the skinny litle bastard out of the open window and proceeded to pound his face o a pulp. I guess the 90 lb kid should have thought twice before cutting off the 250lb kid that played football and lifted weights four days a week. Nowadays I carry a gun legally for self defense. Along with a compact powerful flashlight. Generally most issues you would have with the road ragers would be best served by blinding them with the light (ala Surefie or Streamlight) and them using it like a roll of quarters in your fist or stabbing at them with the crown of the light around the forehead or collarbone area. I genrally tell the students in my ccw classes about that particular option, as the flashlight is REALLY easily explained away as a tool and not a weapon.

 

[RaWarrior]

I wonder if a flashlight with an assault crown would be considered a weapon if it ever came to that. Then again, I've seen "tactical" crowned flashlights at wal-mart, so if anybody can freely buy them I doubt they're considered weapons.

Always heard truck drivers like the old fashioned mag lites that hold the 4 D batteries because they're hefty and suitable for cracking thugs with. I imagine a steel cased mag lite that weighs like 2 pounds would do a lot more damage than a 2oz aluminum tube with dull ridges on the end, unless they're sharp, in which case you could call it a lighted cheese corer for your wine and cheese sampling club.

 

[98Redlne]

Here in PA a collapsible baton is considered an "offensive weapon" and is illegal.

I can carry a firearm concealed but can't carry a baton....go figure.:confused2:

 

[85 MAX-fan]

unk:unk:

 

[85 MAX-fan]

Always heard truck drivers like the old fashioned mag lites that hold the 4 D batteries because they're hefty and suitable for cracking thugs with.

I much prefer the 6 d cell Maglight. It is a much brighter tool.

 

[dannymax]

Always heard truck drivers like the old fashioned mag lites that hold the 4 D batteries because they're hefty and suitable for cracking thugs with.

I much prefer the 6 d cell Maglight. It is a much brighter tool.

Very illuminating, but I find the larger mag-lite to be difficult to hang onto with a sweaty palm!

Guess it would make a great weapon during the winter!! :biglaugh:

 

[sdt354]

So,
some years back I was watching the movie "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot", and there was the scene where Lightfoot was driving a delivery van and chasing a Hippie Chick riding a motorcycle.
As he rolled up on her trying to provoke a favorable response she pulled a large ball peen hammer off of the tripple clamps of her bike and proceeded to beat on his truck to repel him. VERY EFFECTIVE.
As much as I love Bearspray, I don't think you could get the desired effect in these circumstances. On the roll, or stopped at a light the Ball Peen Hammer has merrit. Anyone carry this type of device on their ride, and if so how do you store it???:ummm::ummm::ummm::ummm:

Unless you're riding a HD in Massachusetts, you have no excuse to have a hammer. Also used for tightening head bolts and assorted looose hardware.(must also have open end wrench set to be valid)
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