Hey Bob, you just gotta really watch, I've bought quite a few things on eBay that once I got the item I've looked at it and said " nope this isn't worthy of my bike" and I just kind of either stockpile it or give it away. But there are some things I've gotten that I wouldn't have found anywhere else. So really, just be careful, it's alot of times more of a hassle to return than it's worth so I just chalk it up to win some lose some. But I have gotten some really nice stuff and some real pieces of ****. Oh yea, not to change subjects, but are you going to thunder in the valley in June? If you are let me know. Thanks, Ed