Finally

[Screwloose]

There with ya....

I've also booked Emily Hastings to do a song for me in the last few minuts.

 

[patate657]

I've also booked Emily Hastings to do a song for me in the last few minuts.

Good memories. Thanks...

 

[2017VMax]

If you are susceptible to death from Covid, I really do feal bad for you. Expecting the world population to get two shots every 6 months forever is just not going to happen no matter who is right. My entire family has had Covid and survived with minimal problems. My best friend who was vaccinated is in the hospital now with Covid pneumonia. It truly is a horrible problem that is causing separation and stress. Covid is here to stay for the unforeseeable future. I am choosing to live before I die. I am not going to spend the rest of my life behind a mask or watch my kids do it. Get on your bike and go be alive.

 

[Tom Holub]

Let's first address your illogical bridge of the two terms "Individualist" and "Narcissist"

Individualism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology and social outlook that emphasizes the moral worth of the individual. Individualists promote the exercise of one's goals and desires and to value independence and self-reliance and advocate that interests of the individual should achieve precedence over the state or a social group.

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) or megalomania is a personality disorder characterized by a long-term pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive craving for admiration, and struggles with empathy. People with NPD often spend much time daydreaming about achieving power and success, and perceive injustice for failing to do so.

These two terms are unlike each other, not synonymous.

I am gonna "kindly" tap you on the shoulder and offer an opinion. You may not realize that you are posting in a motorcyclist forum and this is relevant because many motorcyclists relish the individual nature of man, machine and road. This forum, in my humble opinion, is a wellspring of knowledge and experience with the VMAX motorcycle platform with a focus on fixing, modding, and tuning a sometimes finicky and brutally powerful machine on their own, with their own skills and hands. Self reliance and Individual achievement are applauded.

An entertaining quote:
The difference between a bicyclist and a motorcyclist is that a bicyclist insists that the world around them be mindful of their safety. A Motorcyclist expects everything around them is trying to kill them.

"Individualists promote the exercise of one's goals and desires and to value independence and self-reliance and advocate that interests of the individual should achieve precedence over the state or a social group." So if everyone has these rugged individualistic values we have infinite conflicts, because individual rights conflict. My individual right to a healthy environment is violated by another's individual right to refuse to get vaxed or wear a mask.

Thanks for the "kind" tap on the shoulder. I have been riding motorcycles since 1963, have owned dozens of motorcycles of all makes. I currently own and love 6. Motorcycles are a major part of my life., that's why I enjoy this forum. However, I can only take so much ******** without weighing in. I didn't start this thread.

I appreciate your thoughtful input.

"To ride or not to ride. That is a stupid question."

 

[Parminio]

Back when it was about small pox and if you survived it you were horrifically scared for life we never had any of this conversation.

Back when it was about becoming crippled and rendered paralyzed by Polio while leaving you writhing in pain for the rest of your life we never had any of this conversation.

It took Facebook Groups and Donald Trump to get us to a place where the greater good, caring for your children, your extended family and your fellow man and protecting them from the deadliest pandemic the world has seen in over a century are now a matter of personal preference and freedom rather than a given duty of honor and decency.

The mind boggles.

 

[Tom Holub]

Yes. Yes, I am a rugged individualist. I am an American.

However, I am not a narcissist. I have zero F¥€is to give what you think about me, or anyone else on this planet. I want to be left alone, the polar inverse of narcissism. I am a rabid supporter of freedom, mine AND yours, and you’re throwing it down the toilet out of fear, nothing more than fear, which is F¥<king up MY freedom. You act like there’s never been sickness in human existence. Well, Skippy, we are all gonna die, get over yourself and get used to it. I’m choosing to LIVE.

Do you even ride, bro?? Seem like quite the snatch, too afraid of your own shadow. Maybe try turning off the tv.

I've been riding motorcycles since 1963, bro. A good part of that time I had no other form of transportation. I never calculated it, but hundreds of thousands of miles. I currently own and love 6 motorcycles. Motorcycles have been a major part of my life. That's why I like this forum.

But speaking of "afraid of my own shadow," you seem to be the one afraid of communism. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the US will ever turn commie. That scare is a remnant of the 1950s. Where have you been?

 

[gentsvmax]

I've been riding motorcycles since 1963, bro. A good part of that time I had no other form of transportation. I never calculated it, but hundreds of thousands of miles. I currently own and love 6 motorcycles. Motorcycles have been a major part of my life. That's why I like this forum.

But speaking of "afraid of my own shadow," you seem to be the one afraid of communism. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the US will ever turn commie. That scare is a remnant of the 1950s. Where have you been?

It is in the news here that Denver students are wearing SOCIALIST t-shirts, t-shirts bearing Che Guevara's name. These are our not so distant future voter's! Alot, a hell of alot of whats going on both politically and socially reeks of communism!! And its going on blatantly right under our noses.

 

[Parminio]

It is in the news here that Denver students are wearing SOCIALIST t-shirts, t-shirts bearing Che Guevara's name. These are our not so distant future voter's! Alot, a hell of alot of whats going on both politically and socially reeks of communism!! And its going on blatantly right under our noses.

So which is it? Socialism or Communism? They are not related.

Most people that talk about those two things have no idea what they actually are. Fact of the matter is the United States has long been a socialist based country.

• The United States Armed Forces (all of them)
• Your local police departments
• Your local fire departments
• All governments both federal and local
• Social Security
• Unemployment benefits
• Public Education
• FEMA

Those are all socialist constructs that all Americans use. As for communism, there isn't any in the United States outside of currently republican run states.

• Forbidding schools to enact safety measures for covid 19
• Forbidding local governments from enacting safety measures for covid 19
• Writing laws restricting voting rights
• Writing laws that openly violate constitutional rights
• Promoting fictional conspiracy theories about the past presidential elections
• Promoting fictional information regarding treatment for covid 19 infection
• Actively promoting the overthrow of the present United States government

Those are all communist operations. The only people doing that are republican government officials.

 

[Jeff Jarquin]

No TV at my house! I refuse to fall prey to Nazi propaganda. I work and enjoy my life without outside influences. I don't stress. I love to ride my Vmax and love when it gets my blood flowing! Just remember one thing, when the "man" stops working for you, and starts working against you. They are now enemy. Throttle up boys! Let's here that V boost!

 

[Jerry Klay]

So which is it? Socialism or Communism? They are not related.

Most people that talk about those two things have no idea what they actually are. Fact of the matter is the United States has long been a socialist based country.

• The United States Armed Forces (all of them)
• Your local police departments
• Your local fire departments
• All governments both federal and local
• Social Security
• Unemployment benefits
• Public Education
• FEMA

Those are all socialist constructs that all Americans use. As for communism, there isn't any in the United States outside of currently republican run states.

• Forbidding schools to enact safety measures for covid 19
• Forbidding local governments from enacting safety measures for covid 19
• Writing laws restricting voting rights
• Writing laws that openly violate constitutional rights
• Promoting fictional conspiracy theories about the past presidential elections
• Promoting fictional information regarding treatment for covid 19 infection
• Actively promoting the overthrow of the present United States government

Those are all communist operations. The only people doing that are republican government officials.

Freak!

 

[wacokid]

So which is it? Socialism or Communism? They are not related.

Most people that talk about those two things have no idea what they actually are. Fact of the matter is the United States has long been a socialist based country.

• The United States Armed Forces (all of them)
• Your local police departments
• Your local fire departments
• All governments both federal and local
• Social Security
• Unemployment benefits
• Public Education
• FEMA

Those are all socialist constructs that all Americans use. As for communism, there isn't any in the United States outside of currently republican run states.

• Forbidding schools to enact safety measures for covid 19
• Forbidding local governments from enacting safety measures for covid 19
• Writing laws restricting voting rights
• Writing laws that openly violate constitutional rights
• Promoting fictional conspiracy theories about the past presidential elections
• Promoting fictional information regarding treatment for covid 19 infection
• Actively promoting the overthrow of the present United States government

Those are all communist operations. The only people doing that are republican government officials.

A socialist is a communist without a gun. You are aware the Nazis were socialists and the Russians are communists, right??? Or you want to rewrite that too?
When SHTF your side won’t stand a chance. Keep pushing MF. I say your side as you’ve already singled out red states. It’s ok. I’ve done the same regarding blue states and cities. And that is the only instance I’ll ever agree with you.

My grandmother spoke of smallpox. She knew a family of 13, 11 died. In less than 6 months. My entire family, I have 7 siblings, my wife’s entire family she has 6 siblings, everyone we know has had COVID. Yet, only my uncle died.

My uncle was denied access to his 67 yo dementia riddled wife for 10 months, had a high functioning son he was not allowed to care for, so he shot himself in the ******* head from depression. I’m sure he was labeled as covid death. Covid is a joke. Just like that dementia riddled idiot that got “85M” votes. Worst joke ever.

 

[Tom Holub]

So which is it? Socialism or Communism? They are not related.

Most people that talk about those two things have no idea what they actually are. Fact of the matter is the United States has long been a socialist based country.

• The United States Armed Forces (all of them)
• Your local police departments
• Your local fire departments
• All governments both federal and local
• Social Security
• Unemployment benefits
• Public Education
• FEMA

Those are all socialist constructs that all Americans use. As for communism, there isn't any in the United States outside of currently republican run states.

• Forbidding schools to enact safety measures for covid 19
• Forbidding local governments from enacting safety measures for covid 19
• Writing laws restricting voting rights
• Writing laws that openly violate constitutional rights
• Promoting fictional conspiracy theories about the past presidential elections
• Promoting fictional information regarding treatment for covid 19 infection
• Actively promoting the overthrow of the present United States government

Those are all communist operations. The only people doing that are republican government , officials.

You are spot on, Paminio! Well put.

 

[Tom Holub]

It is in the news here that Denver students are wearing SOCIALIST t-shirts, t-shirts bearing Che Guevara's name. These are our not so distant future voter's! Alot, a hell of alot of whats going on both politically and socially reeks of communism!! And its going on blatantly right under our noses.

I'm not afraid of t-shirts or students.

 

[Pighuntingpuppy]

I'm not afraid of t-shirts or students.

Clearly. And you dont seem too bothered by the fact that these kids can and will vote your rights away.

You can always vote your dictators in, but you always have to shoot your way out afterwards.

 

[Parminio]

You are aware the Nazis were socialists

Incorrect. They were NAMED the National Socialist movement. It was in fact a totalitarian government about as far removed from socialism as you can get.

the Russians are communists, right???

Incorrect again. They WERE communist just after the revolution but have evolved today into a totalitarian government very much the same as the Nazis under Hitler.

When SHTF your side won’t stand a chance.

My side? I'm an American. Not sure what you are, but...well, there it is.

Keep pushing MF.

I don't deal drugs. Sorry.

I have 7 siblings, my wife’s entire family she has 6 siblings, everyone we know has had COVID. Yet, only my uncle died.

First off, I'm very sorry for your loss.

Secondly, thank you for proving the point of science. That's 1 person out of 13. That is a 7.7% death rate, or just short of double the going death rate from covid 19 among the unvaccinated.

So, that is nothing to brag about. At all.

 

[wacokid]

There are more than 100 in our families. Of the 13, we all have kids, most have grandkids, your number is CNN. Fake news. Which brings it to what now genius? Less than 1%. Live in fear. Do so by yourself. I’m not.

 

[Parminio]

Wow. You really are bent completely and totally out of shape and raging at the world.

Good luck man. Seriously.

 

[gentsvmax]

So which is it? Socialism or Communism? They are not related.

Most people that talk about those two things have no idea what they actually are. Fact of the matter is the United States has long been a socialist based country.

• The United States Armed Forces (all of them)
• Your local police departments
• Your local fire departments
• All governments both federal and local
• Social Security
• Unemployment benefits
• Public Education
• FEMA

Those are all socialist constructs that all Americans use. As for communism, there isn't any in the United States outside of currently republican run states.

• Forbidding schools to enact safety measures for covid 19
• Forbidding local governments from enacting safety measures for covid 19
• Writing laws restricting voting rights
• Writing laws that openly violate constitutional rights
• Promoting fictional conspiracy theories about the past presidential elections
• Promoting fictional information regarding treatment for covid 19 infection
• Actively promoting the overthrow of the present United States government

Those are all communist operations. The only people doing that are republican government officials.

I'm not able to produce for the sake of discussion here the various social media posts and personal encounters quoted/sited by the parents, students and school faculty that depict that fact that these "kids" think socialism/ communism are one and the same.
They are entertaining the ideology(s) as being cool, popular maybe to fit in, to me as it has been presented is like they are playing with fire, as I wrote in the previous post, these kids will soon be voting.

We also have here in Denver two very dangerous individuals actually elected in to office by the "woke" crowd here that are openly Socialist/Communist pin wearing, card carrying members of our local government. One named Tey Anderson/ Denver School board, wears a red and gold hammer and sickle pin during press conferences, the other is Candi Cdebaca/city council . These two in particular make sure they are at every school rally organized against cops, defunding cops or demanding resignation of who ever doesn't agree with them. They have weaponized these school students. This is a blatant and in your face statement against America! Its acceptance, tolerance and influence here scares the hell out of me as I see the incremental erosion of this the greatest country ever, America.

 

[Parminio]

Tay Anderson is a Democratic Socialist. He's never worn a hammer and sickle pin. The only pin he wears is that of the Denver Public Schools.



He is, however, more than a bit overzealous. He also has an accusation of sexual harassment hanging over his head.

But that's about it.

 

[ga_max]

I'm not able to produce for the sake of discussion here the various social media posts and personal encounters quoted/sited by the parents, students and school faculty that depict that fact that these "kids" think socialism/ communism are one and the same.
They are entertaining the ideology(s) as being cool, popular maybe to fit in, to me as it has been presented is like they are playing with fire, as I wrote in the previous post, these kids will soon be voting.

We also have here in Denver two very dangerous individuals actually elected in to office by the "woke" crowd here that are openly Socialist/Communist pin wearing, card carrying members of our local government. One named Tey Anderson/ Denver School board, wears a red and gold hammer and sickle pin during press conferences, the other is Candi Cdebaca/city council . These two in particular make sure they are at every school rally organized against cops, defunding cops or demanding resignation of who ever doesn't agree with them. They have weaponized these school students. This is a blatant and in your face statement against America! Its acceptance, tolerance and influence here scares the hell out of me as I see the incremental erosion of this the greatest country ever, America.

That's the way democracy works. If you don't like them vote against them. If they win, then work against their policies. When they come up for re-election vote against them. That's what Americans do. Or are you saying that people with different ideas than what you think is right should not be allowed to run for office? I must have missed that part of the Constitution. Democracy is messy and always will be.