Political corruption

[SpecOps13]

Specops,

Please explain your first paragraph as I am confused as to what, who, you are referring to??? (Surely you do not condone the murder of your fellow servicemen:ummm.

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You do realize how many of our own soldiers, we have killed to gain a military advantage don't you. At one time I had orders that anyone not wearing the same pattern and style camo as the unit I was in were to be considered the enemy. Luckily that didn't happen to any friendly forces. However there have been tens of thousands of our own soldiers killed over our history. Friendly Fire, Mistakes and For a variety of other unacceptable reasons............. What exactly are the facts surrounding the claims against Israel? And, were they correctly reported? You do know the Government and News Lie about everything, right.

 

[DMAN999]

Can you please send me a link of where he is selling a book? I haven't seen it.

Otherwise we don't ban people for difference of opinion.

http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297041&postcount=159
and
http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297096&postcount=163
and
http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297166&postcount=169

And truthfully I don't really care if he gets Banned or Warned or whatever,
I just got sick of seeing this user keep posting and starting new Anti-US (Pro-Mexico) Threads when all he really seems to be doing is trying to Promote that Book.

 

[gamorg02]

http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297041&postcount=159
and
http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297096&postcount=163
and
http://www.vmaxforum.net/showpost.php?p=297166&postcount=169

And truthfully I don't really care if he gets Banned or Warned or whatever,
I just got sick of seeing this user keep posting and starting new Anti-US (Pro-Mexico) Threads when all he really seems to be doing is trying to Promote that Book.

He mentioned a book that furthers his point, I don't see it as promoting. Then answered questions about it. If someone had written a book on second amendment rights would you feel the same way?

Whether we like it or not I don't think Dave's comments (even if they were taken as pro-Mexican/anti-american which I believe can be debated) are worthy of any type of repercussions.

There has been, in my mind, a great about of leniency on this forum to discuss all gun related issues, where people of different thought groups could comment, despite the overwhelming majority here seemingly being on one side of the fence. But lets please remember this is a bike forum. My concern with it all is that it potentially turning away new or lurking type members that may be of a more liberal stance not feeling accepted.

 

[Frosty72]

I agree with gamorg02, this is a motorcycle website, not an american political website.

The political circle jerks get old but I don't think anyone should be banned or punished for those. Say what you want, if people don't like it, they can skip it.

If the OP thinks Mexico is safer, then he's living in the right place I guess.

 

[Miles Long]

There has been, in my mind, a great about of leniency on this forum to discuss all gun related issues, where people of different thought groups could comment, despite the overwhelming majority here seemingly being on one side of the fence. But lets please remember this is a bike forum. My concern with it all is that it potentially turning away new or lurking type members that may be of a more liberal stance not feeling accepted.[/QUOTE]

Well said, Garret.
You exemplify the stance that a Moderator should adopt. Kudos to you, Sir.unk:

 

[DMAN999]

He mentioned a book that furthers his point, I don't see it as promoting. Then answered questions about it. If someone had written a book on second amendment rights would you feel the same way?

Whether we like it or not I don't think Dave's comments (even if they were taken as pro-Mexican/anti-american which I believe can be debated) are worthy of any type of repercussions.

There has been, in my mind, a great about of leniency on this forum to discuss all gun related issues, where people of different thought groups could comment, despite the overwhelming majority here seemingly being on one side of the fence. But lets please remember this is a bike forum. My concern with it all is that it potentially turning away new or lurking type members that may be of a more liberal stance not feeling accepted.

No problem, Thanks for looking into this anyways.
If you notice I tend to stay out of those Politcally based discussions for the most part.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

He mentioned a book that furthers his point, I don't see it as promoting. Then answered questions about it. If someone had written a book on second amendment rights would you feel the same way?

Whether we like it or not I don't think Dave's comments (even if they were taken as pro-Mexican/anti-american which I believe can be debated) are worthy of any type of repercussions.

I agree there should be no repercussions

There has been, in my mind, a great about of leniency on this forum to discuss all gun related issues, where people of different thought groups could comment, despite the overwhelming majority here seemingly being on one side of the fence. But lets please remember this is a bike forum. My concern with it all is that it potentially turning away new or lurking type members that may be of a more liberal stance not feeling accepted.

This is definately a bike forum, but I for one welcome the discussion of politics. For too long that has been discouraged by many people. Politics account for the positive or negative impact of government on our life all the way down to the ability to key up your V-Max and throttle down the road. This is the Burn Out Pit where everything goes, and those discussions here have been placed appropriately.
I feel Dave should be able to post any statist socialist BS he wants, as it is a valuable tool to teach others that people like this are living, and being allowed to come to, our country. They can achieve voter's status and influence our lives. It is of the utmost importance that they do not fly below the radar, but openly demonstrate their dissagreement to our constitution and bill of rights.

 

[ouchez]

You do realize how many of our own soldiers, we have killed to gain a military advantage don't you. At one time I had orders that anyone not wearing the same pattern and style camo as the unit I was in were to be considered the enemy. Luckily that didn't happen to any friendly forces. However there have been tens of thousands of our own soldiers killed over our history. Friendly Fire, Mistakes and For a variety of other unacceptable reasons............. What exactly are the facts surrounding the claims against Israel? And, were they correctly reported? You do know the Government and News Lie about everything, right.

Specops,

I would love for you to get educated on the murder of these Service Men while on a mission for our country.

Please start by going to the web site U.S.S Liberty Memorial, WWW. USS liberty.org/

After reading that Google U.S.S. Liberty for a host on info on the attack and cover up.

After reading all that remember that Defence Secretary Hagel just assured Ehud Barack of Israel, that while we are cutting Billions from our buget that will affect our children etc., that there will be no cuts to the 5 billion that goes to Israel this year, sweet.:rofl_200:

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[poppop]

This is definately a bike forum, but I for one welcome the discussion of politics. For too long that has been discouraged by many people. Politics account for the positive or negative impact of government on our life all the way down to the ability to key up your V-Max and throttle down the road. This is the Burn Out Pit where everything goes, and those discussions here have been placed appropriately.
I feel Dave should be able to post any statist socialist BS he wants, as it is a valuable tool to teach others that people like this are living, and being allowed to come to, our country. They can achieve voter's status and influence our lives. It is of the utmost importance that they do not fly below the radar, but openly demonstrate their dissagreement to our constitution and bill of rights.

+1000.Dont you believe that weve ingored the political situiaton is what got the country where it is today?I dont believe we have given a inch in the forum about our bikes!It's talking about keeping our freedom,and enjoying one anothers company as maxers.If there wasn't so much Wrong with our u.s.no one would!

 

[choctaw]

Well DAMNIT boy!!!!