Solid Motor Mounts Are INSTALLED!!!

[gunrunner]

Where are you guys getting these mounts?

If i get some i will get mine off some bloke in Auckland cant remember his name tho ........ :rofl_200:

And he's gonna let me ride his 88 next weekend . So i will have a good comparision in handling etc .. :clapping:unk:

 

[vmaxcruzer]

Looks like I'm gonna have to flip a coin. Ive got my motor out and my stock mounts could use some attention. 13 years old now so a new set probably wouldn't hurt.

 

[Noxx72]

C'mon Gamorg. If you run the slash cuts you have to clean the insides too. Tsk tsk.

 

[Rusty McNeil]

The only difference between Delrin and Aluminum is going to be cosmetic.

Delrin has Zero effective give same as aluminum.

mine definitley got a distinct high frequency buzz in ther grips at highway speeds, would put my hands to sleep on a hour or more long ride.

Kuryakyn Iso-Grips cured that one hundred percent.

As for braces versus mounts? I say both, but if I had to pick just one it'd be the mounts for sure, they tie in more places and it's like having several frame braces

 

[yukonerdave]

I'd really appreciate a write up with pics as well. Down to engine and frame and its looking like this might be a good time to get new mounts.

 

[06VMAXIMUS]

Might be a stupid question but why solid mounts? Is there some sort of advantage over (rubber) stock? I would think that the extra strain on the frame/welds could not be a good thing. I am not trying to be a wisenhimer, just not sure of the advantages....performance??

 

[gamorg02]

That I can't tell you, cause I've only installed the delrin. I think Jedi made his own and are aluminum.

As far as noise I can't tell, the kerker pretty much covers that if in fact there is any.

Give? it tightens things up, how much, I dunno cause I'm running frame braces and a braced swingarm so I really can't tell.

Install wasn't that bad, did it while BS'ing a friend in a couple of hours and about a 6 pack at a leasurely pace.

jedi made derlins.

C'mon Gamorg. If you run the slash cuts you have to clean the insides too. Tsk tsk.

that bike is long gone! just happened to be the picture i chose!

 

[Nicki66]

My vote is for delrin. I dont have anything to support this, but I was thinking that the delrin would not transfer the vibes as much as the alum. I filled my handle bars with bird shot and am running ISO grips. So no real noticeable difference in vibes.

 

[one2dmax]

Delrin get brittle over time. Aluminum takes centuries to have that happen. Factory already uses solid mounts in the ventures (certain years they started) so they aren't too worried about the extra stress. Vibes are going to be nearly identical between the 2 as previously noted.

We've used both and the aluminum is what we suggest.

Sean

 

[gamorg02]

Delrin get brittle over time. Aluminum takes centuries to have that happen. Factory already uses solid mounts in the ventures (certain years they started) so they aren't too worried about the extra stress. Vibes are going to be nearly identical between the 2 as previously noted.

We've used both and the aluminum is what we suggest.

Sean

have you ever seen the derlin get too bad where it had to be replaced sean? if so, was it a specific case (bike was left out near salt water or something) or does the derlin just have a specific amount of time before it goes typically?

 

[one2dmax]

Nothing that I saw happen to a completed bike. We installed a set of Delrins to a bike and the next year went to change them out to another engine and they virtually disintegrated when being removed. I think they would have probably been OK if they had been left in place. But, for them to be that brittle already to me means that they are an inferior material.

Sean

 

[WVxNitemare]

Ok so I'm putting the swing arm back in and gonna repack the bearings while I'm at it. Went to local yamaha shop to get the grease and they told me the marine grease ACC-GREAS-14-CT is fine to use. I want this verified before I do it. I don't like taking chances.

 

[one2dmax]

Yes, most marine grade grease (and other greases) repell water well and should work just fine.

Sean

 

[WVxNitemare]

Ok thanks, coming from you means a lot. I'm off to install a swingarm... I hope.

 

[WVxNitemare]

Ok bike is put back together. Many thanks to all that helped, especially the trick for the swing arm removing the final drive. WAAAAAY easier to put back together that way. Took like 15 secs to get the shaft in afterward. Never even lost any gear oil. Tomorrow evening I'll create a post with the instructions I had PLUS my pictures. Hopefully that helps someone else. Next task is the fork springs which I'm still wondering if I should do or not myself.

 

[one2dmax]

Springs only are easier then the swingarm was.

Sean

 

[RMSVMAX]

Looking at doing this to at some point . Is it worth doing even with the increased vibes at 4000+rpm .

We have used both AL & Delrin mounts, and any vibes are insignificant with EITHER...
(if you are trying to feel the "vibes", you probably should be paying more attention to the ROAD!!!!...)
Yamaha uses solid AL mounts, AND an upper motor mount, on Ventures,
with cruise control, radio, cassette, optional CD player, etc...and if it works for that TOURING bike, it will work, JUST FINE, for your 'hotrod'...
STILL doesn't "vibe" like ALOT of bikes out there...


What you recommend the solid mounts or the engine brace ?:confused2:

Let's be VERY CLEAR here:

This is about bracing 2 DIFFERENT areas of the frame, and should NOT be an 'either/or' proposition!!!

But IF you are considering one or the other, the braces do more, and SportMax braces give the MOST rigidity, period.

(located DIRECTLY IN LINE with the rear frame rail; the others just can't be installed there, the location which provides MAXIMUM bracing...)

However, if you prefer the clampon style, & ease of install, remember:
ANY bracing will help. Just a matter of how much help you want/need...


Here's a thought; do one OR the other, your choice...
Ride it a while, THEN install the other...
SEE for YOURSELF, then post your results, PLEASE.

(Just a tip: Do the frame braces 1st. You will be GLAD you did.)

Hope this helped;
Thanx for asking!

John
RMSportMax.com
610-509-VMAX(8629)
:eusa_dance:

 

[RMSVMAX]

Front springs are very SIMPLE, & VERY effective.
Just don't bother with the emulators,
or, if you insist on doing them, PLEASE,
do them AFTER you have ridden with the springs awhile,
THEN see if they really DO make a diff...

IF you do this, POST your results...

(should help keep someone else from wasting time & money on emulators...)

PS. I talk to ALOT of MAXers, and have NEVER heard of anyone doing the springs 1st, then emulators later, and finding the emulators to be worthwhile...
Folks, if you do BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, and it makes a diff,
HOW do you KNOW WHAT REALLY HELPED...???...

Hope this helps someone.

John
RMSportMax.com
610-509-VMAX(8629)
:eusa_dance:

 

[RMSVMAX]

Nothing that I saw happen to a completed bike. We installed a set of Delrins to a bike and the next year went to change them out to another engine and they virtually disintegrated when being removed. I think they would have probably been OK if they had been left in place. But, for them to be that brittle already to me means that they are an inferior material.

Sean

We have taken Delrin mounts out of more than a few motors, tapped out with simply a ball peen hammer & 3/8" extension,
(I know,...was just what was right there, and it worked FINE...)
& they tap out with NO problem...The ALs tend to corrode a bit, and need some lubricant sometimes...

BTW, we have NEVER taken mounts out-a 2-3 hour job-to simply "Change them (the mounts?) out to another engine"...???...
I HOPE you meant "change the MOTOR out", Shawn...

I challenge you, Shawn, or anyone else, for that matter, on this issue,
because I have heard this'wives tale' before, and it is PURE BS.

We have had Delrin mounts in MAXes now for YEARS, and tens of THOUSANDS of miles, and ANYONE is welcome to come to our shop, and remove ANY of these mounts (I suggest the front mounts; as most of you well know, the rears are a BEAR!!!...LOL)
OR, you are welcome to take any of the used SportMounts we have on the shelf
(taken out of blown motors. or bikes we parted)
& BEAT ON THEM, with a hammer, or whatever you like...
& see what happens...
(HOWEVER, IF you ding or dent them with your antics,
and they DON'T disintegrate, you bought yourself a set of SportMounts,
& you post the results to this and any other applicable list...

Delrin IS THAT tough.

I don't know what you removed, or installed initially for that matter, Shawn,
but it wasn't Delrin.


John
RMSportMax.com
610-509-VMAX(8629)
:eusa_dance:

 

[jedi-]

There's an illerate nimrod selling Aluminum mounts on Ebay with so much BULLSHIT claims that it's actually sad reading it.
Eg. He claims they melt ( Delrin) because of the engine temperatures with numerous guys complaining all over the forums.
Funny thing is next to my Acetal engine mounts is a plastic elbow tube from the waterpump housing which is 22 years old and come to think of it my plastic oil filler cap is also 22 years old and hasn't melted....Amazing!:rofl_200: