Use of Kawasaki ZX14 Masters Brake & Clutch

[wildweasel_pt]

Remove the rubber cap and then you will see a circlip that needs to be removed for you to remove the L shape plastic tubing. It seals with an o-ring inside the hole...

 

[Cybergrizzly]

PERFECT, FRED. No need for further explanations. Many thanks.

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

 

[Cybergrizzly]

One thing came up to my mind. To remove the circle clip down in the master hole should be no problem with the L shape plastic tube because there is enough space to work around. What about when you try to install the plug-in reservoir ? The cup will block your line of vision and work space. Same when you try to remove the cup. Comments ?

 

[one2dmax]

You can get them in and out but it's not super easy. The "right" pair of angled clip pliers will be what you need.

 

[satariel666]

One thing came up to my mind. To remove the circle clip down in the master hole should be no problem with the L shape plastic tube because there is enough space to work around. What about when you try to install the plug-in reservoir ? The cup will block your line of vision and work space. Same when you try to remove the cup. Comments ?

You must be very elastic'n'gimnastic :rofl_200:

Serioulsy...its not easy but possible.
Thats why I have designed a uniqe reserviors to not struggle with this anymore.
Im not using a circlip to hold my reserviors. Details? Sorry, they are too far for now to take a pic.

 

[Diablotin]

You can get them in and out but it's not super easy. The "right" pair of angled clip pliers will be what you need.

+1 with Sean. I can tell they are a pain to remove without the pliers. I ended up going to ace hardware one day just for that lol

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[wildweasel_pt]

One thing came up to my mind. To remove the circle clip down in the master hole should be no problem with the L shape plastic tube because there is enough space to work around. What about when you try to install the plug-in reservoir ? The cup will block your line of vision and work space. Same when you try to remove the cup. Comments ?

He he i knew you were going to ask that... Thats why i made an adapter with a thread in which one tip is the same as the L shaped tubing and the other tip is threaded into the reservoir using an O-ring for sealing. The adapter is bored through for oil to pass and to avoid the adapter to move/rotate i cut a horizontal groove on the tip of the thread so i can fit a screwdriver on it inside the reservoir while i twist the reservoir by hand till it tights snug, the adapter should have a thread long enough to protrude from the bottom of the reservoir so teh groove is showing for you to stick the screwdriver in. I do recommend you keep the circlip like its meant to be otherwise you can pop the reservoir off if you bump it

 

[Cybergrizzly]

I will have to get me a set of angled pliers myself, no sweat. No wonder Yana Shiki's reservoir design has such a long stem. You need space to work around with the circle clip. Here's a pic of Yana Shiki's reservoir and their website: http://www.yanashiki.com/Billet_Aluminum_Mini_Rear_Brake_Reservoir_p/mbr10ch.htm.

I do like Fred's approach as his is shorter and closer to the master. Looks cleaner and better. By the way, Fred...any chance of you selling a couple of those reservoirs or the price is excessively high. :ummm::ummm: I would love to have a couple of those reservoirs in my Vmax. Ha, Ha, Ha.

 

[wildweasel_pt]

If enough interest shows up i can run a batch of those adapters with corresponding reservoirs with custom colors, the colors can be ordered as per customers request (the cap, removable bracket and body can be any regular color). These reservoirs are really well made and good anodizing. Send me an email wildweasel_pt(AT)hotmail.com

 

[Cybergrizzly]

That?s good news, Fred. What probably the rest of the Vmaxers would like to know is how much the reservoirs might cost, let?s say for a batch of 10 cups or more. Really don?t know what is a reasonable number to make a run to keep costs low. It would be up to you to determine and let us know.

Another issue would be the shipping costs to USA since you are in Portugal.

Al

:eusa_dance:

 

[satariel666]

https://www.motomummy.com/brake-reservoirs/evotech-rear-brake/clutch-reservoirs/

 

[wildweasel_pt]

That?s good news, Fred. What probably the rest of the Vmaxers would like to know is how much the reservoirs might cost, let?s say for a batch of 10 cups or more. Really don?t know what is a reasonable number to make a run to keep costs low. It would be up to you to determine and let us know.

Another issue would be the shipping costs to USA since you are in Portugal.

Al

:eusa_dance:

Mine i got them for about 50 euros or such plus shipping for each. I was really satisfied with the quality (and i could choose color, took a bit longer for the custom order though) and then i made the adapters. Already made some for Rizomas as well for Jon from digitalspeedos in UK. I don't think shipping is a big issue, especially if i ship in bulk. But to be straight forward with you i have no interest on making a pair cause time is not abundant for me and as you may understand i don't have any significant gain on making a pair of adapters. 6 pairs would be a good minimum number to setup the machinery. I'd say that for the 2 reservoirs plus shipping to me and the 2 adapters a good final number should be around 150 euros.

 

[wildweasel_pt]

https://www.motomummy.com/brake-reservoirs/evotech-rear-brake/clutch-reservoirs/

Thanks for the link.

 

[Cybergrizzly]

Just wanted to let you know that I finally bought this past weekend a set of ZX14 master cylinders, reservoirs and levers from Ebay. Not exactly a bargain but they are new (unused set pull out from a 2009 bike). I had to decide to go either used or new (between bad, so-so, new-unused, or brand new). I think I got what I wanted. These are Nissin manufactured, so they should be ok.

Based on the feedback in this thread I have enough information as to decide which reservoirs to order and/or who to contact.

Thank you all for the comments. Al

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[ZackDaniels]

Those do have a viewing glass right? Am I just overlooking it?

 

[Cybergrizzly]

Those are standard ZX14 (2009) masters and have the regular plastic reservoirs so you can see thru the level of the brake fluid. See pic below. I plan to replace those in the future with the billet aluminum ones that plug-in directly to the masters. For the time being, I will have to figure out a way to affix the reservoirs to probably the mirror mounts.

Al

 

[ZackDaniels]

Ahhhh the solid aluminum bits are just caps and not the entire res, I see it now. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Cybergrizzly]

Hello again, Vmaxers !!! Just read in a Triumph Forum that these direct mount plug-in reservoirs cannot be used in radial type master cylinders such as the one found in the Kawa ZX14. Any idea why they will not work?

 

[wildweasel_pt]

Don't believe everything you read... I might also be lying right now... LOL

 

[Diablotin]

Hello again, Vmaxers !!! Just read in a Triumph Forum that these direct mount plug-in reservoirs cannot be used in radial type master cylinders such as the one found in the Kawa ZX14. Any idea why they will not work?

Funny thing is I read on one triumph shop online that their reservoirs were fitting all nissin with circlips :bang head: