What did you do to your Vmax today? Part 2

[dtoebaert-5311]

Yup, heavy traffic, and I still am getting used to my new toy. The smart thing to do was let him go. In the right place right time on my Bandit, I would have give it a go to see what that Ducati had. I can ride my other bike. I think that Ducati is more of a Gen2 match up though, at least not my Cobra piped stocker...

The Diavel is a real nice-looking bike, but it was released after the Gen-II, so you always have that copy-cat feeling...

 

[Diablotin]

To me they don't really look a like except for the scoops and power figures. When I saw the diavel the first time it did look much more compact than my gen 1.

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[fullhouse]

I like the diavel

Pulled the bike out ready for a 5am ride to work

 

[one2dmax]

Been swapping the 85 electrical out for newer electrical. Almost done. Changing to COP's (without resistors), Igniteck CDI - setup to run the correct dwell for the COP's without resistors, No Vboost Control Box - will let the Igniteck unit run that, and lightened flywheel.

Bike always makes 124-126 rwhp so will be interesting to see what these changes will bring the next time we put it on the dyno. Got the big Truett and Osborn races coming up this weekend and hopefully will have it ready by then. Weather is supposed to be nice so going to try for that magic 10 second pass (not easy to get with our effective elevation around here).

 

[Biker Dash]

Sell those Cobra pipes to someone who is more-into looks than power

lol And what if you have a complete idiot like me that wants BOTH the look of the Cobras, and a minimum of stock power.

Sean has been quite helpful in helping me understand how the stock headers, and the Cobra slip-ons, would have to be modded to get myself back to at least really close to stock power. (4-2-4 with a crossover)
Where as I will end up wanting MOAR, I will definitely in the future need a custom set of headers of that design that flow a lot better. The mufflers themselves should flow well enough, but if not, I am sure they could be cut open, surgically opened up, welded back together, and re-chromed lol

and then get a UFO 4/1 Dragstar, and a pair of good earplugs to use when you're riding. Sean's Muscle Kit or a Dynojet Stage 7, or a Factory Pro setup for the carbs, and by all accounts, you should be able to make about 120 RWHP.

I was under the impression that a stock V-max makes about that at the rear rubber. I'd suspect he'll make more than that with the setup you just described.

Radials will let you use the power and minimize the handling issues that stock VMaxes seem to display. All you need for that is a new/used 5.5" X 17" or 18" rear wheel, try Kosman, and a pair of correctly-sized radial tires, the stock front wheel can take a 110 X 18" though the wheel width isn't optimal for the tire.

I want to run 120/70-17 & and 190/55-17 on some nice light rims. Chain drive is also desired.

 

[one2dmax]

average stock bike makes 105-115 (with most 110-112). Average bike with the header and jet kit is low 120's. The higher mileage bikes make more power. We've seen low 130's with 60K plus mile bikes with header and jet kit.

Sean

 

[Biker Dash]

average stock bike makes 105-115 (with most 110-112). Average bike with the header and jet kit is low 120's. The higher mileage bikes make more power. We've seen low 130's with 60K plus mile bikes with header and jet kit.

Sean

Oh... so the power loss I got was not as bad as I had expected it to be running the Cobras?
Question, if the Cobras were modded along with a custom set of free flowing headers, would the Cobra slipons support (flow-wise) around 140-150rwhp?

Yeah... I'm one of them that WANTS the best of all worlds lol

 

[one2dmax]

You can make ANY system show power but only because the engine forced the gasses out. Case in point.
We took a 96K venture 1300 engine (in a vmax). Put on vmax heads/cams with some basic home porting (I helped the friend show him what needed to be done). Put on the STOCK Vmax exhaust and STOCK carbs and airbox. Made 135 RWHP (can't remember the torque but it was higher too). So, you could even say that the stock system can support that power level. Now, we could have put the header and jet kit on it and make over 140 and maybe a true 145 rwhp with it.

I'll never know because a year later that same friend planted himself in the grill of an F250 on his way home from getting some more tuning work at the shop. I have no idea how fast he was going but am quite sure it was triple digits based on the damage the truck had (and the fact a tow truck had to winch the bike out of the front end where it was stuck in there).

Sean

 

[maleko89]

You can make ANY system show power but only because the engine forced the gasses out. Case in point.
We took a 96K venture 1300 engine (in a vmax). Put on vmax heads/cams with some basic home porting (I helped the friend show him what needed to be done). Put on the STOCK Vmax exhaust and STOCK carbs and airbox. Made 135 RWHP (can't remember the torque but it was higher too). So, you could even say that the stock system can support that power level. Now, we could have put the header and jet kit on it and make over 140 and maybe a true 145 rwhp with it.

I'll never know because a year later that same friend planted himself in the grill of an F250 on his way home from getting some more tuning work at the shop. I have no idea how fast he was going but am quite sure it was triple digits based on the damage the truck had (and the fact a tow truck had to winch the bike out of the front end where it was stuck in there).

Sean

RIP, Scott.

Scott needed to change his fuel filter more often....I do remember that.

 

[Biker Dash]

You can make ANY system show power but only because the engine forced the gasses out. Case in point.
We took a 96K venture 1300 engine (in a vmax). Put on vmax heads/cams with some basic home porting (I helped the friend show him what needed to be done). Put on the STOCK Vmax exhaust and STOCK carbs and airbox. Made 135 RWHP (can't remember the torque but it was higher too). So, you could even say that the stock system can support that power level. Now, we could have put the header and jet kit on it and make over 140 and maybe a true 145 rwhp with it.

I'll never know because a year later that same friend planted himself in the grill of an F250 on his way home from getting some more tuning work at the shop. I have no idea how fast he was going but am quite sure it was triple digits based on the damage the truck had (and the fact a tow truck had to winch the bike out of the front end where it was stuck in there).

Sean

My condolences on the loss of a friend

 

[KJShover]

Been swapping the 85 electrical out for newer electrical. Almost done. Changing to COP's (without resistors), Igniteck CDI - setup to run the correct dwell for the COP's without resistors, No Vboost Control Box - will let the Igniteck unit run that, and lightened flywheel.

Bike always makes 124-126 rwhp so will be interesting to see what these changes will bring the next time we put it on the dyno. Got the big Truett and Osborn races coming up this weekend and hopefully will have it ready by then. Weather is supposed to be nice so going to try for that magic 10 second pass (not easy to get with our effective elevation around here).

Awesome, can't wait to see the numbers. The 10 is right around that corner :clapping:

 

[johnblaid]

Drying my paper air filter with GF's hair dryer.

This is stupid. This bike is stupid. Who didn't think about riding this bike in the rain?

 

[Redbone]

Drying my paper air filter with GF's hair dryer.

This is stupid. This bike is stupid. Who didn't think about riding this bike in the rain?

You may want to try a K & N filter to replace the stock filter which should resolve issues your filter from getting wet.
If I'm understanding your issue correctly that your filter was getting wet from sitting in the rain? Or was if from riding in the rain? Not sure of your setup but could you detail any modifications (if any) that were done to the air intake system vs. stock? Thanks.

 

[WVxNitemare]

Drying my paper air filter with GF's hair dryer.

This is stupid. This bike is stupid. Who didn't think about riding this bike in the rain?

Never had any issues with my air filter getting wet.. I can't see how it could get wet where it is..

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[WVxNitemare]

This is the stock setup for airbox.. is yours different?
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[Diablotin]

Yeah I don't see how water can get in there. Maybe with individual filters but still doubting.

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[one2dmax]

Even then there is a drain for if/when any water gets in there. The bike should not be impacted that much on the intake side of things with a little water (hence why water injection works well for high HP applications).

Most of the time it's electrical parts that don't seal as well that don't like getting wet (like the coils with cracks).

 

[CaptainKyle]

Pulled the carbs off my 2000 to clean them & removed the Morley jet kit since I am just gonna sell the bike.

 

[Traumahawk]

Installed a 12 volt outlet to plug in power for cell phones...gps...etc...

 

[KJShover]

Didn't do much on the archangel today, I've been taking a break, my back is killing me today.
So while I was gathering the bills to pay at the end of the month, I made some decisions about some purchases I was going to make.

Have to be responsible ya know. I figure I don't need another guitar, I don't need that sweet 20 channel mixing board. So I did the grown-up thing.

In 6, to 10 weeks at the longest (depending on how much they are backed up on orders), I will have a 3D printer headed my way. I think this will do the shop some good by making prototyping much easier than going from plan to metal. If it doesn't work and it's in metal, I have a new fishing weight. But, if the plastic doesn't work, I just chop it up, melt it down and put it through the machine that turns it back to filament. If it looks like it will work and it fits, then it will get finalized in metal.

It's not the biggest printer out there, only about a 5x5x6" cube of printing space, but for what I'm going to use it for, that's more than enough room.