The IGNITECH TCI thread

[bumper]

I max out at 39 on the curve that I have setup shouldn't be any pre-ignition. It advances quicker down in the lower and mid rpms. I spent the good part of a day playing around with various curves until I found one that I thought was the best. I added a cable to the ignitech unit so all I have to do is raise the middle part of the seat where I fill gas and plug in. Just takes seconds to hook up and program and back on the road for a test.

 

[PeeWee]

Hi Bumper,

can you expose ur ign file that you created? Just to compare en learn :clapping:

 

[srk468]

Hi Bumper,

can you expose ur ign file that you created? Just to compare en learn :clapping:

I'd be interested in it too if possible, if you want you can email it to me at [email protected] I'd sure appreciate it bud!

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[wildweasel_pt]

If so at least post here for everyone to try and evaluate if you don't mind... There's no evolution if things are not shared... At least i think that is for the better of the ignitech users community...

 

[srk468]

Don't think the forum supports the file type Frank, maybe in a zipped folder?

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[PeeWee]

Hm...

nearly two months without a sign of live here, anyway, have a great 2014!

 

[Traumahawk]

Hm...

nearly two months without a sign of live here, anyway, have a great 2014!

Here is another thread...if that helps.

 

[bumper]

wow missed the posts, at work now, i will post it this weekend

 

[bumper]

This is what I am using, keep in mind I am running, COPS, and the unit control my vboost also. I have switched over to a TPS running of the throttle shaft of one of the carbs. So the file is setup for all that. Open for suggestions on the settings. I took the bike out one afternoon with my laptop and ran it through what I had marked as a 1/4 mile and set by the seat of my pants and the speedometer so its rough but was the fastest speed that I came up with. vboost kicks in a 5 grand.

 

[Traumahawk]

I had posted on another thread about timing increases, (I forgot about this thread) so reposting the questions and stuff here.

I have the ignitech unit, and have it installed. Are there any benefits to increasing the timing in a relatively stock Vmax? If so how much? I know of several people that have increased their timing 2-3 degrees across the entire spectrum, and have said that there is a "seat of the pants" increase.

I wonder if anyone has taken to time to do multiple dyno runs, and increased the timing to see HP increase, or at what point detonation begins. I know that even a slight pinging would be hard to hear on a Vmax.

Are there mileage improvements for increasing the timing?

I'm wanting to say that some people have the dyna 3000, and get better dragstrip times on the "stock" advance instead picking the different curves. Well found out some info.....here are the advance curves that are used with the dyna 3000's. The curves for 1985-89, and 90-07. So someone could follow these curves as a good base line with increasing the ignitech.


Thanks

 

[vladthedog]

I'm starting to mess around with this a bit as well, and have been left very confused I noticed as well that the ignitech timing is very high compared to even the highest curve of the dyna 3000.

I also was looking at bumpers setup, and he has quite a few values maxed out on the "low end" (quite a few of the values for around 2-3k are at 60). Although re-reading, I just saw a post where he said he maxed out at 39, so now i'm confused. I looked at the RPM and TPS tab, which is where I saw a lot of values at 60, but on the "only RPM" its only showing whats at 100% which is then true about maxing out at 39. I know I'm new to the program, but if you leave it on "only RPM" when you program, does it only use those values across the board?

To your first point about advancing a few degrees and getting a "seat of the pants" improvement. I was reading elsewhere that as an engine gets more miles on it, and looses some compression, you will get an improvement by increasing it a bit, which is what may be noticed by many.... not so much as a performance "improvement" as a "returning to brand spankin new" feeling.

 

[srk468]

I had posted on another thread about timing increases, (I forgot about this thread) so reposting the questions and stuff here.

I have the ignitech unit, and have it installed. Are there any benefits to increasing the timing in a relatively stock Vmax? If so how much? I know of several people that have increased their timing 2-3 degrees across the entire spectrum, and have said that there is a "seat of the pants" increase.

I wonder if anyone has taken to time to do multiple dyno runs, and increased the timing to see HP increase, or at what point detonation begins. I know that even a slight pinging would be hard to hear on a Vmax.

Are there mileage improvements for increasing the timing?

I'm wanting to say that some people have the dyna 3000, and get better dragstrip times on the "stock" advance instead picking the different curves. Well found out some info.....here are the advance curves that are used with the dyna 3000's. The curves for 1985-89, and 90-07. So someone could follow these curves as a good base line with increasing the ignitech.


Thanks

Identical ET's on the Dyna on curve 4 (advanced timing) and curve 1 (stock timing) but curve 1 had an average of 1.5 more mph than curve 4. When I first put on the Dyna I went straight to curve 4 and swore seat of the pants increase, after I started racing the bike and trying different things and found out curve 1 made more horsepower I left it there and I never felt slower on the street. I think it boils down to we think more advance will help (I was guilty of this too) so when we go for the first ride we already have it in our heads that its going to feel faster even though it isn't. I've got the new programmable Dyna now so I'm going to start experimenting going the other way by decreasing advance and see how that goes. These are just my personal experiences.

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[Traumahawk]

So I have one more question....KPA is a unit of pressure, and KPA is on the right side of the graph, so 100% kpa is high pressure, and 0% kpa is low pressure, does 0% kpa equate to wide open throttle?

Below is a pic of the advance that came with my ignitech.

 

[srk468]

So I have one more question....KPA is a unit of pressure, and KPA is on the right side of the graph, so 100% kpa is high pressure, and 0% kpa is low pressure, does 0% kpa equate to wide open throttle?

Below is a pic of the advance that came with my ignitech.

Yes you are right, lower kpa means wide open throttle and higher is part throttle cruising.

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[VMax-Mike]

On my bike on the dyno we got the best readings on curve 2 but seat of the pants curve 4 was best for me. I think curve 4 does give you a little more bottom end. Your not crazy scott. I think as you get to third gear the timing on curve 4 need to be different and at this time curve 1 will do best. We found a happy medium on the dyno with curve 2 but the bike dident wheelie in 2nd gear the way it did when damon set it up on curve 4 without the dyno so i know the seat of the pants feel is true and the bottom end power is stronger. I ran 11.71 at 265lbs in gear on curve 4 I never made it to the track with it on curve 2 but i feel it would have been faster in the 1/4 mile. But for me i was so lucky to be able to experience a well tuned for bottom end power vmax that would wheelie in 2nd gear. Thank you Damon.


This is a play day with the vmax on curve 4 in second gear above 45 mph and chad filming. Thanks again chad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQjElgP744

 

[Traumahawk]

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[vladthedog]

Traumahawk, thanks man!

How did people find the correct voltage for wide open throttle with it s during in a garage? Can you just let it bounce off the Rev limiter to get a good reading?

 

[Traumahawk]

Well for beginning voltage, I used what the TP graph was showing at idle....and adjusted accordingly, and the just whacked the throttle quick, and saw what the highest reading was. I'm wanting to say the unit comes set at 3.8 for the highest reading, and I adjusted mine for 4.1.

Now later on, my plan is to take it to a dyno, and see what the highest voltage generated is at full throttle, and I'm also curious to see what the voltage will be cruising at 75-80 mph. Because what ever "Kpa" line it is on, thats the line the needs to have the highest partial advance readings.

 

[Traumahawk]

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[Traumahawk]

Well I dyno'd the bike today with the laptop hooked up, just so that way I could see what the ignitech was doing. During the dyno runs, it is reading 100%, so that line equates to WO throttle. I then had him take it to 4800 rpm. The equivalent of 75-80 mph. it is on the 0% line...so I know KNOW....that is for part throttle.

I forgot to air the rear tire up to 40...its at 33 so probably cost a bit of hp, but all in all, I was happy with it. Now for the 4-1 kerker.