March Motor Cyclist Magizine V-Max vs B-King

[maleko89]

We all know the Gen II is a heavyweight. But to add a little more perspective of the weight difference

Gen I Vmax (Dry) = 581lbs ( 263Kg)
08' B-King (Dry) = 520lbs ( 235Kg)
Gen II VMax(Dry) = 658lbs ( 298Kg)

That much difference between a Gen II and the B King and it's still a close performance match. That is what impresses me.

True KJ, but Gen 2 has 339 more cc's than the B-King.

 

[evoluzione]

oh, and to show i'm not just blowing smoke, here are shots of some of my bikes:

custom vmax

custom b-king (still finishing it up)

the true torque monster (152 ft-lbs @ the wheel)

and the bike that is fatser than all of the above

regards,

ken zeller

 

[Buster Hymen]

ok ill bit...i know you dont own a max thats cool..but i have never rode either bike ...on a cruiser you want on hand power (torque) on the highway...you dont want to have to down shift just roll it ok and take off...there is no way in hell at highway speed the bking will even come close you would have to down shift once or twice to catch up... by that time a half mile has passed and the max showed you what tq is all about.......what hype are you talking about all i read was it was a handling over the old max...and it is and has the most powerfull motorcycle engine ever made for the street...and with its extra weight it still comes down to the rider if he knows how to make a bike talk or not...post a pic of your two bikes :rofl_200:

You haven't ridden either bike, but you magically know how they perform on the highway.... :icon_rolleyes:

 

[Buster Hymen]

We all know the Gen II is a heavyweight. But to add a little more perspective of the weight difference

Gen I Vmax (Dry) = 581lbs ( 263Kg)
08' B-King (Dry) = 520lbs ( 235Kg)
Gen II VMax(Dry) = 658lbs ( 298Kg)

That much difference between a Gen II and the B King and it's still a close performance match. That is what impresses me.

Don't forget the Gen II also has almost 400 cc more motor.

 

[KJShover]

I'm still looking and want to know (with all the talk of Race ECU's and new pipes) what the hell did Yamaha do to de-tune the HP and Tq on the Gen II Max.

 

[113s&s]

i guess since i recently bought both a 2009 vmax & a b-king, i am qualified to talk about both. your comment that you have never ridden either but "that there is no way in hell that at highway speed the bking(sp) will even come close" is a little misguided. both bikes are very strong but the weight of the vmax does hold it back. in the magazine article, they did test the bikes in 60-80 mph top gear roll-ons (such as you talk about without down shifting). the vmax does it in 2.66 seconds where the b-king took 2.49 seconds. and keep in mind that the vmax only has five gears where the b-king has six.

i'm not trying to bash one bike or play the other up, but just trying to present a fair evaluation.


regards,


if the max has 30 more pounds of torque like it says its has it should pull away like a raped ape on a rollon both in top gear...fact that it dont or we really dont know for sure yet dont sound right.....where you have both bikes have a trusted friend take one and ride with you on the highway do a few rollons from 70 80 mph thats the only real world test...thats how i always found out what was what everything esle is just story telling...thanks for your responce evo...dont be a stranger stop by the lounge...Sal

 

[KJShover]

True KJ, but Gen 2 has 339 more cc's than the B-King.

Granted, I just put the comparisons in there cause not everyone out there has felt the weight of all three, but I'd guess a good 99% here has been on a Gen I.

At 370cc's more, does the 1570 kit make 190hp? Thanks Mark, I want one now:bang head: I thought I was getting close to being finished my my bike.

 

[KJShover]

oh, and to show i'm not just blowing smoke, here are shots of some of my bikes:

regards,

ken zeller

Oh yeah, a friend of mine bought some stuff for his Ducati from your shop.
I thought I recognized the name.

Great stuff man! Are you planning on selling some things for the Gen II and B-king?

For others that want to take a peek here is the site.

http://evoluzione.net/



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[evoluzione]

...if the max has 30 more pounds of torque like it says its has it should pull away like a raped ape on a rollon both in top gear...

not sure where you get the 30 more ft-lbs of torque? based on the article, the vmax peaks out at 109.7 where the b-king peaks at 97.9 (difference of 11.8). but the weight difference of 122 pounds is signifigant in any test.


regards,

ken zeller

 

[Buster Hymen]

Granted, I just put the comparisons in there cause not everyone out there has felt the weight of all three, but I'd guess a good 99% here has been on a Gen I.

At 370cc's more, does the 1570 kit make 190hp? Thanks Mark, I want one now:bang head: I thought I was getting close to being finished my my bike.

Here's a dyno of Bills 1640 Gen 1 -- 226 HP, 128 ft lbs

 

[dannymax]

oh, and to show i'm not just blowing smoke, here are shots of some of my bikes:

custom vmax

custom b-king (still finishing it up)

the true torque monster (152 ft-lbs @ the wheel)

and the bike that is fatser than all of the above

regards,

ken zeller

That's some nice looking iron Ken! :eusa_dance:

I'd like to see some more shots of the 'B'...I can't tell what you did to the rear but it looks much better than any one I've seen so far.

 

[KJShover]

Here's a dyno of Bills 1640 Gen 1 -- 226 HP, 128 ft lbs

Sweeetunk: Thanks buster, now I know I'm not done yet:shot:. I might go with the 1428 like jim has w/EFI and use a smaller shot of the squeeze.

 

[KJShover]

That's some nice looking iron Ken! :eusa_dance:

I'd like to see some more shots of the 'B'...I can't tell what you did to the rear but it looks much better than any one I've seen so far.

I want to see and hear more of them pipes on his Gen II

 

[evoluzione]

That's some nice looking iron Ken! :eusa_dance:

I'd like to see some more shots of the 'B'...I can't tell what you did to the rear but it looks much better than any one I've seen so far.

i'm still finishing the rear of the b-king - i'm trying for a "bobber" type look. it will still be another couple weeks before i'm finished.

 

[02Moneypit]

Im also very curious about the pipes as well:ummm:

 

[evoluzione]

I want to see and hear more of them pipes on his Gen II

here's another shot from the other side:

if you look close you will see some of the 60+ parts we polished and powdercoated, as well as the upgraded brakes, plate relocator, turn signal mods, etc.

 

[KJShover]

Looks great, job well done.:clapping: Do you ride that Y2K that is your avatar? thats has to be a kick in the pants.

 

[02Moneypit]

Where did you put your plate?

 

[dannymax]

i'm still finishing the rear of the b-king - i'm trying for a "bobber" type look. it will still be another couple weeks before i'm finished.

That's what I figured.....the 'bobber' has always been my favorite. unk:

IMO the 'B' just cries out "Bob me!!" :biglaugh:

Looks to me like you're onto somethin' there, keep us posted.:thumbs up:

 

[HuecoDoc]

Hello and welcome, Ken. I wondered if the name was a coincidence. You did a fair amount of the K1200R work when it was new, and I bought several things from you. I have kept that bike, too. Nice collection you have.

oh, and to show i'm not just blowing smoke, here are shots of some of my bikes:
regards,

ken zeller