:th_rockon: I guess it is all a matter of personal experience. I have found the VMOA members to be very helpful. The Yahoo site is umm shall I say lacking?!?! I needed to use some tools and a garage last summer. I called the Regional Director & he hooked me up with a member who let me use his garage, hauled my bike, & fed me too! I think it is good to have choices. The more folks out there enthused about the VMax, the better. :rocket bike: