The second amendment to the constitution of the united states

[dannymax]

Well put Dave....yes it is the New America and we're involved in a fight for our lives that....A) Most of us aren't even aware of yet and....B) We have no idea what the rules of engagement are....just that it appears there really aren't any.

The 'government' can't protect us....****, we'll be lucky if we can protect ourselves!

 

[Traumahawk]

Had to post this...

 

[VMax-Mike]

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[Traumahawk]

I couldnt see the image...when I clicked on it...it wanted me to sign into outlook...

 

[SpecOps13]

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[dannymax]

Good survey Dave, thanks for posting. Always felt Ruger pays attention to these things and will follow thru. unk:

 

[XBoxMax]

This Is A Public Service Announcement:

Do we have our "heads in the sand"???
Why are all the gun stores selling out??? Here's one reason:​

This is from a person in Fresno, CA. but not limited to Fresno. In fact we think it's happening all over the U.S​

Quoted from a Fresno resident. ​

We now live about 30 miles from Fresno. We are up in the Sierras and Fresno is the first big town we encounter when we leave the mountains. ​

We shop there often. I received this from my ex-homicide partner who is still active in law enforcement circles in the Fresno area.​

Excuse the language, but don't excuse the facts. Don't give up your guns, and buy necessary ammunition if you can find it. Be cautious and alert. ​

Be ready if, God forbid, we need to protect our families and loved ones.​

If you weren't at Rotary meeting on Friday, you missed the only decent speaker we've had in more than a year. L TC John Cotter is the 144th Fighter Wing's anti terrorism officer. John had a two-part presentation. First part was describing his job as the unit's anti-terrorism officer. Pretty standard stuff.​

The second part was information that will curl your hair. A Part-time air guardsman works as a checker at local Von's. Two women in full burkas buy every pre-paid cell phone in the store. Clerk/airman gets to thinking about it. ​

Goes to Cotter and reports incident. Cotter asks store for surveillance video. It's scary enough that he contacts Fresno FBI.​

FBI investigates and determines these women have been doing this all over the Valley. Cell phones shipped through Canada to Iraq/Afghanistan where they become triggers for roadside bombs.​

The Shell station at Peach and Shaw. Every time a local GI goes there in fatigues they are asked specific questions. What is your unit? When are you deploying? How many aircraft are you taking?​

The F-16s out of Fresno fly CAP for west coast. As such they are the first line of defense so they have the US 's most sophisticated air-to-air missiles. Foreign governments would like to get their hands on those missiles or at least learn how to build them. Also how many we have, etc. Two spy groups are working on it, one based at Fashion Fair Mall (the F-16s take-off pattern) and one based at Sierra Vista Mall (the F-16s landing pattern).​

Cotter said the ragheads (but we don't profile) are always probing the base. Two dorks in a pickup show up at the front gate wanting to deliver a package marked Air National Guard, Fresno ... No postage, no UPS, no FedEx, no DHL, no nothing. Just a probe.​

I asked Cotter why we haven't seen anything about this in The Bee, on KMJ, on local TV news. He said they're not interested. Since Friday I've learned of two other things. My brother-in-law, Frank, (management at Avaya) had a Muslim tech who took a leave-of-absence for 6 weeks in Afghanistan. After the 6 weeks were up he called from New York requesting an extension. Frank (who does profile) said, you're fired, and called the Fresno FBI who were very interested. Don't know the outcome. A Muslim who owns a liquor store in my former hometown of Kingsburg was constantly bugging customers to buy guns for him. Finally one of the guys I grew up with called the FBI.​

We are a country at war and the enemy is among us. I don't care what Janet Napolitano says, it's a fight to the death and we should be as prepared as possible. Brother-in-law Frank has a theory and I think it may be closer to the truth than Homeland Security wants to admit. See note below in red There are a certain number (probably a large number) of Muslims among us who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can, sort of a Fort Hood on steroids. I know I'm getting prepared to shoot back.​

Two items of interest: Sheriff Margaret Mims wants to grant concealed carry permits to all who are qualified. Columnist Jim Boren, among the most bleeding of the bleeding heart liberals, says it's time for Fresno residents to arm themselves. LOAD up, you can bet this is happening in places other than Fresno .. David Rayburn​

We are under attack from a hidden enemy that is everywhere. They are a cancer that WILL attack us and KILL as many as they can to further the Islamic doctrine of Shiria law. They behead, cut off limbs, stone people to death and worse. Beware, there IS a holy war coming. The signs are everywhere if you care to look and listen.​

What do we expect from Homeland Security not wanting to admit anything since they are being run by devout Muslims in charge of Homeland Security Posts. ​

Well, boys and girls, today the fox is guarding the hen house. The wolves will be herding the sheep!​

Obama appointed two devout Muslims to homeland security posts.​

Obama and Janet Napolitano appointed Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development. DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).​

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a 'devout Catholic," a "devout Jew" or a "devout Protestant"...? Just wondering. ​

Devout Muslims have been appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? That should make our home land much safer, huh!?​

Wasn't it "devout Muslim men" who flew planes into U.S. buildings a few years ago? Wasn't it a "devout Muslim man" who killed 13 at Fort Hood?​

Please give this important information to anyone who give a rat's ass about the future of our Country.​

 

[Traumahawk]

Its not just the 2nd admendment that is under attack...

http://www.naturalnews.com/040196_Fourth_Amendment_cyber_spying_ISPs.html

You know...when the government under GW found out that ISP's were spying..they hit the roof, and it was on the news....Now...its all gone very quietly...

 

[SpecOps13]

Its not just the 2nd admendment that is under attack...

http://www.naturalnews.com/040196_Fourth_Amendment_cyber_spying_ISPs.html

You know...when the government under GW found out that ISP's were spying..they hit the roof, and it was on the news....Now...its all gone very quietly...

It goes much deeper than you could imagine. I deal with Federal Agencies / Military and their firearms requirements on occasion. There's a lot of people who know have more insight than I do and they are AFRAID of what the future holds for America. Really Afraid. Why is Homeland Security arming FEMA anyway. Will Homeland Security soon take over The FBI, CIA and anyone else standing in their way?????
Watch and See.:bang head:

 

[forestdaledave]

To add some balance to the discussion with interesting and rational thought.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl.../articles+(The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles)

David

 

[SpecOps13]

forestdaledave: The more laws and restrictions we place on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the closer we get to losing our freedoms and becoming a country LOST TO HISTORY. Move back to America then I may listen to you.....:confused2:



Could this actually be for Real??????

The "most popular" part of the defeated-but-sure-to-come back Senate gun control bill (background checks) sounds like a good idea at first but is more restrictive than anyone anticipated and will have significant unintended consequences.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]There is a huge push to get it through Congress before the public has a chance to consider its contents.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Common activities that we take for granted will become federal crimes. These are not irresponsible exaggerations. Please take a moment to review the requirements of the bill.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Here are a few examples of the restrictions in the bill:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]EXAMPLE #1[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Loaning your buddy a shotgun for a duck hunting trip will be considered a transfer. If the following requirements are not met, YOU HAVE BOTH COMMITTED A FEDERAL CRIME.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]1. He must have already purchased his hunting license[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]2. Season is already open (and will not close before he returns it)[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]3. He cannot travel with the firearm through a county where season is not yet open or any area where hunting is prohibited and certainly not across a state line.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]He CANNOT stop by your house on the day before season opens, pick up the shot gun, go to the sporting goods store to buy a license and shells then drive out to the hunting lease. In this scenario, YOU BOTH WOULD HAVE COMMITTED MULTIPLE FEDERAL CRIMES, YOUR WEAPONS WILL BE FORFEITED AND YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR RIGHT TO BUY OR OWN A FIREARM.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]EXAMPLE #2[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]It appears that only you may relocate your weapons. If your weapon leaves your home without you, the new legislation considers it a transfer of possession. ALL transfers require going through a firearms dealer, paying the transfer fee and a background check for the transferee.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Putting the weapon, even temporarily in someone else's possession, requires a transfer through a dealer. There is no exception for putting them in a friend's truck while moving to your new house or packing them unloaded, locked in a gun safe into a moving truck. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Any scenario in which your weapon leaves your home without you is considered a transfer. Failure to properly transfer the weapon is a federal crime which can result in a prison term AND WILL RESULT IN THE FORFEITURE OF YOUR WEAPON.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]In the scenario above, your buddy's truck was used to commit a federal crime and WILL BE CONFISCATED just like with current Fish and Game violations.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]EXAMPLE #3[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Infractions as above which involve 2 guns of any type are considered weapons trafficking. You will be prosecuted under the same federal laws as a terrorist arms dealer.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]EXAMPLE #4[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Any of the infractions above (or hundreds of other routine scenarios) may result in federal charges, confiscation of ALL your weapons and being prohibited, like all felons, from ever owning a weapon again.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Please read the text of the bill yourself. Most of it is boring legalese but the sections on transfers and trafficking are critical. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Take a minute to think about all the routine activities like those above that will make you a federal criminal and result in prison time plus the confiscation of your weapons and other property. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]A link to the bill is included below on the official Senate website. See Section 122 "Firearms Transfers".[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:S.649:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Read it and call your congressman's office. Talk to their staff. Tell them how you feel about this.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Keep in mind, none of the above would have stopped the tragedy's in Columbine or Newtown . The proposed law makes you a criminal and opens the door for confiscation of your weapons and property for otherwise routine activities.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Think and act. Congress is hoping that you will do neither. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]If you found the patience to read the entire text, you also learned that exactly $100 million per year of your tax money is set aside to enforce these restrictions.[/FONT]

 

[Rollie]

No different than the health care legislation mantra . " We have to pass it to find out what is in it. "

 

[MtnMax/Magniac]

forestdaledave: The more laws and restrictions we place on the constitution and bill of rights, the closer we get to losing our freedoms and becoming a country lost to history. Move back to america then i may listen to you.....:confused2:

amen !!

 

[Traumahawk]

To add some balance to the discussion with interesting and rational thought.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl.../articles+(The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles)

David

"For civilians, meanwhile, we?re one Supreme Court justice away from getting some sanity and balance to interpretations of the Second Amendment, and the only thing I can?t decide is whether it would be more delicious for Barack Obama to appoint that judge or for Hillary Clinton to do it."

So again....this is the authors OPINION...and in my OPINION...isnt not relevant. I do find his last statement funny though, typically if you look at the history of the supreme court, there have been judges that have been considered "conservative" and when they sat on the court, had liberal opinions, and vice versa.

The only OPINIONS of the 2nd amendment that are relevant, are the US Supreme court. So again.....you can say well this judge said this...or this judge said that....and until there is a ruling that says otherwise...the 2nd admendment as it sits...is here to stay.

 

[Traumahawk]

Here is an interesting article..

http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/if-they-come-for-your-guns-do-you-have-a-responsibility-to-fight/

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.
About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.
If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.
Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.
Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin
Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.
I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.
Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.
For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:
The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington
The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams
I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.
We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.
A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.
Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.
It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.
If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.
Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.
I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.
Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.
I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.
If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.
This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.
I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.
What I do know is that this country was founded by people who had balls the size of Texas and Patriotic Americans take **** off of no one, especially our own government. For evidence of that, you might research the Revolutionary War. My question is how many Patriots are left?
I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.
You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.
I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.
For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.
Are you willing to die to take my guns?

Dean Garrison

 

[85 MAX-fan]

To add some balance to the discussion with interesting and rational thought.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl.../articles+(The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles)

David

Yeah,
Thats a great article with "RATIONAL" thought. The statist **** that wrote it focused on pointing out how most of the constitution's enumerated rights have been, or should be, ignored. From the article:

"In fact, the Second Amendment arguably has fewer restrictions on it these days than many of the other first 10, and there is and should be no guarantee that things are going to stay that way. In fact, if we?re ever going to be serious about trying to stop this mass butchery that we endure every few months, they cannot."

GREAT piece by the author. Of course it COMPLETELY avoids acknowledging that NONE of the proposed legislation pushed by the statists will stop ANY of the crimes that the left has promoted as the reason to further dismantle the rights of each and everyone of us. AGAIN, HOW WELL HAS IT WORKED IN MEXICO?

This disgusting attempt to subjugate the populas to the political elite will distort, lie, misconstru, capitalize on the misfortune of the victims that the government couldn't and won't protect, and do what ever else it takes to flush logic down the toilet.
That pesky bill of rights keeps ruining the attempts of the self proclaimed geniouses, politicians, accademics, statists, leftists, marxists, and useful idiots trying disarm everyone BUT the criminals. EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED. This group needs to find a way to convince the majority of the U.S. that they are too stupid to own and opperate a simple mechanical device, and that they are incompetant and unable to provide for their safety and the safety of their loved ones. Pay no attention to the fact in has not, and will not work ANYWHERE.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

Danny, yes. Under the Patriot Act his phone calls and email could legally be tapped and read. Was DHS watching him to see if they would be able to uncover bigger events and terrorists higher up? That would make the injured in Boston simply collateral damage. I really don't want to think like that, but.....
David

REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE THE BELOVED ELITE COULDN'T STOP A COUPLE OF JERKS WITH A BOX OF FIREWORKS, KITCHENWARE, PLUMBING SUPPLIES, AND CHILDRENS TOYS FROM INJURING AND KILLING ROUGHLY 200 PEOPLE.

Unless of course you have a high-school education, occasionally read the news, studied basic U.S. history, and posses the intelligence to cross the street without being run over by passing automobile.

I mean it looks as though they didn't use a semiautomatic rifle???!!! Can that be possible???!!! The mind boggles...
:jerk it:
:404:

 

[Rollie]

Yeah,
Thats a great article with "RATIONAL" thought. The statist **** that wrote it focused on pointing out how most of the constitution's enumerated rights have been, or should be, ignored. From the article:

"In fact, the Second Amendment arguably has fewer restrictions on it these days than many of the other first 10, and there is and should be no guarantee that things are going to stay that way. In fact, if we?re ever going to be serious about trying to stop this mass butchery that we endure every few months, they cannot."

GREAT piece by the author. Of course it COMPLETELY avoids acknowledging that NONE of the proposed legislation pushed by the statists will stop ANY of the crimes that the left has promoted as the reason to further dismantle the rights of each and everyone of us. AGAIN, HOW WELL HAS IT WORKED IN MEXICO?

This disgusting attempt to subjugate the populas to the political elite will distort, lie, misconstru, capitalize on the misfortune of the victims that the government couldn't and won't protect, and do what ever else it takes to flush logic down the toilet.
That pesky bill of rights keeps ruining the attempts of the self proclaimed geniouses, politicians, accademics, statists, leftists, marxists, and useful idiots trying disarm everyone BUT the criminals. EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED. This group needs to find a way to convince the majority of the U.S. that they are too stupid to own and opperate a simple mechanical device, and that they are incompetant and unable to provide for their safety and the safety of their loved ones. Pay no attention to the fact in has not, and will not work ANYWHERE.

......... and the gun toting body guards who protect our geniouses , politicians , academics , statists , leftist , and marxists . Nobody gives a rats rear end about the useful idiots , especially when the above are through with them.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

......... and the gun toting body guards who protect our geniouses , politicians , academics , statists , leftist , and marxists . Nobody gives a rats rear end about the useful idiots , especially when the above are through with them.

Here here.....

There is always plenty of time and "volunteers" to build gulags once the people are subjugated and broken. First we need to convince them that the only ones that can provide peace and security are those whom are members of the state............everyone else is too stupid and incapable of rudimentary thought.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

You seem to be totally oblivous to what I have been saying. I have no issues with the second amendment but you do. IMHO the Second Amendment is not a freedom but a Right that leads to a free society. Try reading the entire amendment. So explain to me just what freedom means to you.
David

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.
George Mason​

For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
Thomas Jefferson ​

What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.
Elbridge Gerry ​

A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country.​

James Madison

[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
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---James Madison,The Federalist Papers, No. 46.


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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---Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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The whole of that Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals...t establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.
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---Albert Gallatin to Alexander Addison, Oct 7, 1789, MS. in N.Y. Hist. Soc.-A.G. Papers, 2. ​

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"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."

? Tench Coxe, 1788.

"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."
? Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, who spent 11 years in Soviet concentration camps.​

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